climbing vs. hiking

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Mihai Tanase

 
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by Mihai Tanase » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:37 pm

lcarreau wrote:(In the desert, you can't remember your name... because you have to tiptoe over
scorpions and rattlesnakes.) :wink:
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by yatsek » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:53 pm

So:
US mountaineering = EU alpinism
Generally climbing above the snow line?

yatsek wrote:I think the HIKER prefers walking outdoors to indoor/gym climbing, unlike the CLIMBER.

Still looking forward to hearing from some who call themselves H or C.
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by Brad Marshall » Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:10 pm

Mihai Tanase wrote:
yatsek wrote: I wonder what native speakers of (any) English mean by "mountaineering" though. Mixed climbing?

For us, in France, "mountaineering" is "alpinisme", mixed or not climbing (rock, snow and/or ice). :wink:


According to Wikipedia:

"Mountaineering is the sport, hobby or profession of walking, hiking, backpacking and climbing mountains. In Europe it is also referred to as alpinism, while in the Americas the term refers to a particular style of mountain climbing, which involves a mixture of ice climbing, rock climbing, mixed climbing, and where the climbers carry all their loads with them at all times."

Does this apply here?

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by yatsek » Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:23 pm

Brad Marshall wrote:According to Wikipedia:"Mountaineering is the sport, hobby or profession of walking, hiking, backpacking and climbing mountains. In Europe it is also referred to as alpinism, while in the Americas the term refers to a particular style of mountain climbing, which involves a mixture of ice climbing, rock climbing, mixed climbing, and where the climbers carry all their loads with them at all times."

Does this apply here?


Well, over here, in Poland, "alpinism" is definitely not used as a synonym for hiking/backpacking/climbing in the mts lower than the Alps/without glaciers. Some may apply the term to winter climbing in the Tatras, our highest.

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by yatsek » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:42 pm

lcarreau wrote:I think you might have entirely missed the point - of the ice axe.

This whole sack of potatoes is about hardcore "climbers" vs. Nature Nuts.



I've missed much more in my life. Anyway, it looks like I've killed the thread. :( Hope it was already dying. :P

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Definitions fail

by oldandslow » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:52 pm

In 1964 Justice Potter Stewart observed that hard-core pornography is hard to define but, "I know it when I see it." Perhaps it is the same for climbing and hiking. Might not be a bad ending for this tortured thread.

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Re: Definitions fail

by eferesen » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:33 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

oldandslow wrote:In 1964 Justice Potter Stewart observed that hard-core pornography is hard to define but, "I know it when I see it." Perhaps it is the same for climbing and hiking. Might not be a bad ending for this tortured thread.

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by Mihai Tanase » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:27 am

oldandslow wrote: Might not be a bad ending for this tortured thread.

:idea:

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by MarthaP » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:21 am

lcarreau wrote:"Mountaineering" is considered going off the beaten track, and CLIMBING any mountain above 7,000 feet. It's usually when you have to "scramble" over rocks or permanent icefields.


Magoo, are you on drugs? Where do you come up with this crap? :roll:

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by lcarreau » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:34 am

Yeah, I just took an aspirin for a headache, because I was on this "tortured thread" too long!

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

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by MoapaPk » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:57 am

MarthaP wrote:
lcarreau wrote:"Mountaineering" is considered going off the beaten track, and CLIMBING any mountain above 7,000 feet. It's usually when you have to "scramble" over rocks or permanent icefields.


Magoo, are you on drugs? Where do you come up with this crap? :roll:


You took the bait.

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by lcarreau » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:19 am

I love dry humor, YOU love dry humor, we ALL love dry humor !!!


:roll: :D :D :D :D :roll:

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by MarthaP » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:22 am

MoapaPk wrote:
MarthaP wrote:
lcarreau wrote:"Mountaineering" is considered going off the beaten track, and CLIMBING any mountain above 7,000 feet. It's usually when you have to "scramble" over rocks or permanent icefields.


Magoo, are you on drugs? Where do you come up with this crap? :roll:


You took the bait.


GROOOOAAAAAAANNNN!!!!!!!! :(

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by yatsek » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:13 am

lcarreau wrote:I love dry humor, YOU love dry humor, we ALL love dry humor !!!

:roll: :D :D :D :D :roll:


You come from a real DRY and RATTLED chunk of the world. Over here we prefer PEACE and BEER. 8)

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