by billisfree » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:06 pm
by OJ Loenneker » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:09 am
by Sunny Buns » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:07 am
by mrchad9 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:36 pm
Sunny Buns wrote:What's going on? A bunch of goobermint maggots that don't care much for climbers/hikers is running the show. It's pathetic. They are protecting nothing but a bunch of pumice scree. It's goobermint gone wild - totally out of control - as usual. Before the permits were required there was never an overcrowding problem. Shame on them!
Whitney is the same way. Not Shasta. Shasta is self-issue permit at the trailhead - no limit. I think the permit is $20. Unless you go to the one popular route you will not find overcrowding.
by Muddeer » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:31 pm
Sunny Buns wrote:Before the permits were required there was never an overcrowding problem.
by mrchad9 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:18 pm
Muddeer wrote:Sunny Buns wrote:Before the permits were required there was never an overcrowding problem.
That's because there were far fewer people wanting to hike/climb those places back then.
Don't know about Washington, but here in California, I've been told by the Forest Service that the permit limits are determined with estimated numbers of no-shows taken into account.
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