Vitaliy M. wrote:. If I know that V notch has a shrund it does not mean that a guy from Kansas that comes here for a week long outing in Palisades knows that. And it may help him plan on getting over one if he starts from Sam Mack...
Hervey Voge addressed this in his original "A Climbers Guide to the High SIerra" GB where he always indicates that the difficulty increases to almost unsurpassable when the "shrund" is open and prevails on all couloirs in the Sierra that are known to have one. Of course these are Norman's original words and we all know that Norman himself turned back on several occasions due to the severity of both the V & U Notch shrunds and others through out the Sierra.
What does it matter if one starts from the PL, Sam Mack Meadows or Gayley High Camp? If they do not have the experience nor ability to over come the Shrund/s, starting location is a completely moot point.