A5RP wrote:

ChristopherFranklin wrote:A5RP,

Thus I stand corrected on my Lottery call. ONLY the Main Whitney Trail requires a lottery entry.

Keep in mind that although it isn't on the lottery, it still has very limited access. They allow only 10 per day on the mr-6 are reservable and 4 are walk-in. If you don't reseve one, you may have to attend the mini-lottery at the office that happens at 11am.

As a side note, I was forced to stand in line for the mini-lottery to get on the Big Pine trail last month at the lone pine office. I asked why, as I was outside the WZ, and they said that was the process for all permits at that office. They said it was due to unruly crowds. Unbelievable.

Ulu wrote:As a side note, I was forced to stand in line for the mini-lottery to get on the Big Pine trail last month at the lone pine office. I asked why, as I was outside the WZ, and they said that was the process for all permits at that office. They said it was due to unruly crowds. Unbelievable.

I have experienced similar problems in the past with getting permits. In Yosemite two years ago I had a reservation, and it still took over well over an hour to pick up the permit in the morning due to their needlessly onerous and inflexible process and lack of good morals. I haven't bothered to get one there since.

If I can persuade the system to open up Williamson/Baxter area for year round use, I hope they will be open minded enough to revamp this permit system to make things easier for the general public.

How is the trail work going up George creek? I remember you promised to built one last spring or something?

Hey everybody, any recent beta on the conditions on MR?

Your best bet for current Whitney conditions is over here:
http://www.whitneyportalstore.com/forum ... d=1&page=1

Completely dry. Up and across the NF and all NF gullies.

I'm a guide!

Hey, I like Cascadeclimbers. But not something you would use much for Whitney.

Those are boards I've been thrown off because I have a hard time tolerating the stupidity of others. Incidentally, forums run rampant with stupidity.

I've been kicked off a forum once because of my age.

Burchey wrote:Incidentally, forums run rampant with stupidity.

But yeah, I have to agree with you on this one.