I have a pair of Spantik's that have no signs of outdoor use. Small (crampon?) puncture in the right heel, only a cosmetic flaw, doesn't affect integrity/function of the boot. That is the only defect I can find. Originally purchased for myself but had to size up another 1/2 to a 45. Asking $500 but welcome reasonable offers. For any more info and for pictures email at maxDOTomeara@yahooDOTcom