You have to learn to squat Find something to lean against - it helps more than you'd think! My mom is a master of peeing while standing up which I think is just plain messy. Keep a small thing of wet wipes with you (handy when it comes to ANYTHING while being outdoors) and you'll be happy as a clam.

Hey, wait a minute! Did you say "Liverpool ???"

Never bobble a full Freshette. Pants, boots, socks...too late & too cold to wash anything. Scrounged up a pair of flimsy rain pants & slept in 'em & hiked out in 'em. My partner laughed so hard he nearly compounded the problem. 5+ yrs later, my down bag still has a faint perfume of Eau de pee. I lean.

inconsolable wrote:Never bobble a full Freshette. Pants, boots, socks...too late & too cold to wash anything. Scrounged up a pair of flimsy rain pants & slept in 'em & hiked out in 'em. My partner laughed so hard he nearly compounded the problem. 5+ yrs later, my down bag still has a faint perfume of Eau de pee. I lean.

So I'm not the only one who's done that. I was lucky -- it's happened twice, and both times on a hot, sunny day while wearing quick-dry pants. Embarrassing, though.

I have no problem pissing in front of people. I might walk away a yard or two just to be polite. I've also been known to masturbate in front of a few guys out in the wilderness, you know-with just my hand down my pants. (sorry, did I say masturbate, I meant to say 'adjust my underwear') LOLS!

Most of you are just too civilized. Unless you're going to the North Pole or climbing somewhere really high the problem lies in your mind not in the devices that you are or are not using. People have dealt with the problem for ages and now after hardly a century of using flush toilets some suddenly can't live without them. Weird.
And there are harnesses (I recall of at least one BD model) that allow you to unstrap the leg loops without taking off the harness (handy for puting your harness on while you're already in crampons). That should solve at least the harness problem.

I head into the mountains to be away from humanity. If someone can't drop trou' and squat, it's one less person to worry about.

I've hiked and climbed with lots of women and our MO is to simply turn our backs if someone needs to go in a tight place. I mean come on, a little common courtesy is all it takes.

As for hazards, dropping your drawers in the prime mosquito season in the Wind River range can be pretty darn exciting. Those bloody little bastards don't care if you're male or female.

Well, that's what happens when you bring a toilet thread back to Life, Steve.

Yes, all the women I was with told me to turn my back. I mean ... thankful I don't have eyes in back of my head. What a mess.

In the end, you just have to suck it up and let it out.