by JHH60 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:25 pm
by Puma concolor » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:44 pm
by ExcitableBoy » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:50 pm
by BigMitch » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:26 am
by asmrz » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:27 pm
by clmbr » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:36 am
Puma concolor wrote:I don't know who came up with the whole science of plastic degenerating after 5-7 years, but my opinion is that it's a bunch of garbage.
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by clmbr » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:54 pm
Puma concolor wrote:. . .
Double boots are way more hardy than some of the high-end leathers folks use before they fall apart after 2-3 years of use.
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by Puma concolor » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:12 pm
by ExcitableBoy » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:40 pm
clmbr wrote:Puma concolor wrote:I don't know who came up with the whole science of plastic degenerating after 5-7 years, but my opinion is that it's a bunch of garbage.
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by asmrz » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:29 pm
by clmbr » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:36 am
Puma concolor wrote:Interesting.
... how old were those Koflachs when that happened and what kind of use had they seen? That almost looks more like damage from a specific incident than simple degradation.
by Tijs » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:06 am
by ExcitableBoy » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:10 pm
asmrz wrote:I find the issue (leather vs plastic) quite personal. I mean for me full grain leather boots like Calibier Super Guides which I still have from the late 70s were the only thing available (then). They were heavy, accepted only strap on crampons and schredded my feet after each trip. But they climbed really well. I climbed about 5.9 rock in them, they edged really well. When the first plastics came out (Koflach), they were simply the next huge step forward in mountaineering and especially winter climbing.
Today, full grain leather boots are really thing of the past. No water-proofing treatment is fully working on any leather boot, they are extremely heavy, few accept "step in" or "Newmatic" crampons and they don't climb that well either.
by atavist » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:15 am
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