mrchad9 wrote:d_shorb wrote:With the right lawyer, it would be proven and someone would pay.
Well, you seem to have shifted from what should and ought to be done to what you might be able to roll the dice on and get some frivolous reward.
Anecdotal cases don't do much to support what the likely outcome would be. You hear about extreme results all the time, but there are far many more lawsuits that are filed and lost, or thown out before they even begin, than you realize. Winning a case isn't as easy, or cheap, as you might think.
Ask a lawyer... get rear ended and sprain your neck. You might think you are going to be rolling in money, but that is not the most likely outcome. The median result is probably to pay your bills and one to two thousand dollars, and thats it.
You are right Sulfuric Acid. There were some injuries, I overlooked, but very minor, which is how I overlooked them. Not thousands in damages here. Apparently the boy didn't even consider a chipped vertebrae a broken bone!
"No stitches, no broken bones," said Colton.
These cases are not anecdotal in our industry, we are all watching them carefully, and our lawyers are updating policy recommendations because of these and other cases. I talk to them regularly, you're analogies don't seem to fit with what our lawyers say.
You are wrong to think that these leaders did a fine job, and everyone should go on about there business just because the boy doesn't think much of it...
You are focusing on whether or not someone can win a case if they almost kill a kid, and the main point is that the leaders were negligent like many Boy Scout Volunteers. I don't mean to focus on the law aspect, though you are basically saying that they weren't negligent, and I would have 10 of 10 wilderness program lawyers agree that the program should get rid of those staff before they kill someone, but would additionally say an administrator needs to write up some protocols that match the rest of the industry.
You're wrong about this being a small mishap, and it appears that you think its a "Near Miss" and not an actually life threatening incident.
Time and again, it happens. I'm not saying accidents don't happen but the Boy Scouts are asking to kill kids with the amount of training they give. Boy Scouts as an oranizatin is well intensioned and so are the volunteers. It doesn't change the fact that these leader were not doing what they should have. It was a mistake.
The problem is that nearly every single year I hear of a Boy Scout mistake. Its time they stop and reevaluate. NOW. Not just in Idaho.
Why are you defending the idea that these guys did a good job?
If you took your family out and lost one of your kids, would you run the next family get away the same?