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Can someone please explain to me 0 feet of prominence. I never once understood why a point that has 0 feet of prominence is considered to be a "peak", unranked, but a "peak". If you look through an empty field with a peak that has 0 feet of prominence in it, it would be impossible to find.

The last few unranked mountains in Colorado are 0 feet prominence. Here is a standard example: http://listsofjohn.com/PeakStats/Climbers.php?Id=6590

Why are they listed and how could of they be found?

I know it may seem like a stupid question to some of you, but I don't think it makes sense.

quite simple really, I don't have time now but just consult this here:

So your saying that it has to do with different angles from different views and the perimeter of it's surface? unless you mean go out, buy, and read the book?

JustinShapiro wrote:unless you mean go out, buy, and read the book.

You may get it from the local library, and yes, that would do you a lot of good ... in the long run. Rpc is a real climber and all his advice is good.

Jokes aside, that point is the highest point of Adams County, and that's why it made the list. Suppose the parent summit is outside of Adams County, and there is really no saddle along the line connecting our high point to its parent. Then prominence is taken to be 0.

EDIT: fixed spelling.

the thing I find funny is that three people actually climbed that "peak" twice.

Justin,

Put "county highpointer" or just "highpointer" in a Google search, and uncover the Religion of High Pointing.

While I don't knock these folks (and know plenty of HP addicts personally), I myself have little interest in visiting non-alpine/mountain/mesa/hill/whatever highpoints (such as the HP of Adams County, Colorado or Mount Sunflower in Kansas).

However, there are folks out there with a religious zeal for this stuff.

Perhaps a highpoint addict could chime in with some input?

Sarah

That particular one as brenta says is a county high point. Imagine it like a parking garage ramp. The ramp is sloped, but somewhere across it is a line that separates parking space #40 from parking space #41. The "high point" of parking space #40 is actually along the boundary, but there is no prominence because the "parent" peak is a constant rise above it - it has no saddle.

Ridges can be the same, sometimes a county or a state border passes through a mountain's ridge or slope, but not its summit. So the actually highpoint of say Huerfano County, is on Blanca Peak, but its not the summit, its about 5' below it on the ridge. It too has zero feet of prominence because its "parent" (the summit) is a consistent rise above it with no saddle.

Hope that helps.

Sweet, it now makes SENSE!

Thanks for the explanations guys.

for the record, rpc is not much of a climber just a bored tool who had slept through many an applied math class. sorry & carry on now.

rpc wrote:for the record, rpc is not much of a climber just a bored tool who had slept through many an applied math class. sorry & carry on now.

By that definition rpc sounds like one of my climbing partners only he still sleeps through math classes.

Here's a nice article by Klenke on the ups and downs of "Dumpster Diving".


http://www.mountaineers.org/nwmj/09/091 ... iving.html

chicagotransplant wrote:That particular one as brenta says is a county high point. Imagine it like a parking garage ramp. The ramp is sloped, but somewhere across it is a line that separates parking space #40 from parking space #41. The "high point" of parking space #40 is actually along the boundary, but there is no prominence because the "parent" peak is a constant rise above it - it has no saddle.

I just wanted to say that that was a fine analogy, CT!

This would be applicable to the high point of Connecticut, which is on the slopes of Mt. Frissell at an elevation of 2,380 feet. The high point is on the border with Massachusetts. The summit of Mt. Frissell is actually in Massachusetts at an elevation of 2,454 feet.

As for high points that don't qualify as mountains, I conquered Delaware's mighty Ebright Azimuth last year (449 feet), which is in the suburbs of Wilmington. On Monday, I'm going to visit Holsclaw Hill (890 feet), which is the high point of Jeffferson County in Kentucky.

CheesySciFi wrote:On Monday, I'm going to visit Holsclaw Hill (890 feet), which is the high point of Jeffferson County in Kentucky.

Don't forget to write a trip report

Here's a nice article by Klenke on the ups and downs of "Dumpster Diving".


http://www.mountaineers.org/nwmj/09/091 ... iving.html

Thanks for sharing that! Hilariously entertaining.