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Re: space bags

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:46 pm
by bearbreeder
i have em ... always goes in my daypack in winter

Re: space bags

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:17 pm
by MoapaPk
I recall Brad Marshall described a similar product that was actually meant for several people.

I am curious if the comments here have merit:
http://forums.equipped.org/ubbthreads.p ... ber=204739
The only thing that really disturbed me was the mention of the thing falling apart when it came out of the vacuum bag.

I guess that if you use it, you would need some other form of insulation below you; sitting on a pack might be OK, but the picture of the shock victim gives me some pause.

Re: space bags

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:24 am
by Edgewood
bearbreeder have you ever used this product? Could you split it up the side to access your patient?

Re: space bags

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:54 am
by bearbreeder
Edgewood wrote:bearbreeder have you ever used this product? Could you split it up the side to access your patient?


ive not opened mine up yet ... and i wont till i need it, youll never get it back down to the vacuum packed size

the standard bag cannot be split ... if you need one that youre going to open and close to access the patient youll need the

http://www.blizzardsurvival.com/product ... al-blanket

how do i "know" itll work? ... its used by the US and UK militaries ...

http://www.armedforces.co.uk/releases/raq46dbd778a303f

andy kirkpatrick also has a few choice words ...

http://psychovertical.com/bivibags

Re: space bags

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:12 am
by Rinat Shagisultanov
I had an emergency bivy at 13000 ft in August in Palisades (Sierra) and it was warm. My guess is that the temps were in 20F during the night. Used the Blizzard bivy bag based on Brit's recommendations. Despite the fact that I had my pack and I was on the relatively flat sandy ledge, the bag was ripped off after 1st use.

Re: space bags

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:52 am
by Edgewood
I'm not looking for a bivy bag to sleep in but rather a bag to keep me or someone else "warm" until help arrives or morning comes. The Blizzard blankie that bearbreeder linked might fit the bill. Seems big enough for two or accessible enough for a injured person. I'd buy a light weight sleeping bag but for the cost and when a patient is picked up you will never see the bag again.

Re: space bags

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:28 am
by brianhughes
Here’s a photo of a space blanket in use. Served its purpose well in this situation, wrapped around the legs and lower torso of the accident victim until help arrived.

http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=267622

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Re: space bags

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:21 am
by bearbreeder
guys this is meant for an one off emergency ... if it keeps you alive its done its job

dont expect to resuse it ...

if you're planning to bivy ... bring a 40F down bag (400g, 200$+), DWR Bivy (200g, 60$+) for the equivalent

this thing weights around 380g vs. 600g+, is the size of a VCR and costs $30 vs 260$+

since you guys are all alive ... i think it works for what its meant to do ... you arent supposed to be comfortable ... its a bivy after all ;)

Re: space bags

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:57 am
by Rinat Shagisultanov
Vitaly,
:-) I was on Norman Clyde Peak (Eagle Face). Blizzard bivy worked fine for me - my 2 other partners had to hug themselves through the night - they were a couple at the time of the climb - so was not a real issue for them ;-)

Re: space bags

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:17 am
by bearbreeder
Edgewood wrote:I'm not looking for a bivy bag to sleep in but rather a bag to keep me or someone else "warm" until help arrives or morning comes. The Blizzard blankie that bearbreeder linked might fit the bill. Seems big enough for two or accessible enough for a injured person. I'd buy a light weight sleeping bag but for the cost and when a patient is picked up you will never see the bag again.



here's the US supplier ... $30 sale price

they have a version which is a lot heavier and have handwarmers in there ... what i have done (not with this particular blanket though) is stick some handwarmers in selective locations ... it warms up the bag very quickly fighting off hypothermia ... just make sure the handwarmers dont touch bare skin

http://www.ps-med.com/blizzard/blanket.html

Re: space bags

PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:15 am
by Edgewood
bearbreeder wrote:
Edgewood wrote:I'm not looking for a bivy bag to sleep in but rather a bag to keep me or someone else "warm" until help arrives or morning comes. The Blizzard blankie that bearbreeder linked might fit the bill. Seems big enough for two or accessible enough for a injured person. I'd buy a light weight sleeping bag but for the cost and when a patient is picked up you will never see the bag again.



here's the US supplier ... $30 sale price

they have a version which is a lot heavier and have handwarmers in there ... what i have done (not with this particular blanket though) is stick some handwarmers in selective locations ... it warms up the bag very quickly fighting off hypothermia ... just make sure the handwarmers dont touch bare skin

http://www.ps-med.com/blizzard/blanket.html

Thanks again bearbreeder. I just ordered mine. hoping it stays unused at the bottom of my pack for a long long time.