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What's a robust guy line setup for above tree line when it's nuking out? I've used 2.3MM glowire and lineloc 3's for three season use and they've been adequate but they have never really been challenged either. Thoughts?

guy2600 wrote:What's a robust guy line setup for above tree line when it's nuking out?

http://www.climbing.com/skill/shelter-for-the-storm/
Calling All Reinforcements
"In punishing winds, reinforce your position by lashing a climbing rope back and forth over the tent. If you have a second set of tent poles, insert them alongside the original poles (i.e., parallel), to augment the tent structure. And for internal fortification, place backpacks, boots, and bodies against the most wind-beaten wall."

I'm guessing a 2.3mm line has at least a 200lb breaking strength. Forget about your lines, worry about your anchors.

You can always double up on both.

A windbreak of snow or stone is traditional because it works, though you don't always have that option.

A single loop knot works in place of a lineloc.

Linelocs are a joke. I never use them.

Like nartreb says, forget about the lines and reenforce the anchors.
I tie the line around a small rock. Then I put a big rock on top and in front of the small rock. This set up has never failed on me, and it saves the weight of a lot of extra line.

When I have used very secure anchors, the tent fabric has ripped before the guylines broke.

MoapaPk wrote:When I have used very secure anchors, the tent fabric has ripped before the guylines broke.

I guess a little bit of give on the lines is a good idea.
I've been seeing some really light weight tent fabrics in the market. I wonder if those would rip in even moderate winds!
Anyone has experience with those one pound tents?

In punishing winds, reinforce your position by lashing a climbing rope back and forth over the tent.

But, how about all that extra force that climbing rope puts on the tent poles, especially on a dome tent?

Marcsoltan wrote:

MoapaPk wrote:When I have used very secure anchors, the tent fabric has ripped before the guylines broke.

I guess a little bit of give on the lines is a good idea.
I've been seeing some really light weight tent fabrics in the market. I wonder if those would rip in even moderate winds!
Anyone has experience with those one pound tents?

I had the guy attachment rip off the tent in a snowstorm. that seemed to be the weak spot. I think it was an integral designs siltarp or similar.
ruined the rest of the trip.

pvnisher wrote:

Marcsoltan wrote:

MoapaPk wrote:When I have used very secure anchors, the tent fabric has ripped before the guylines broke.

I guess a little bit of give on the lines is a good idea.
I've been seeing some really light weight tent fabrics in the market. I wonder if those would rip in even moderate winds!
Anyone has experience with those one pound tents?

I had the guy attachment rip off the tent in a snowstorm. that seemed to be the weak spot. I think it was an integral designs siltarp or similar.
ruined the rest of the trip.

Too bad! This was only a tarp and it failed. It seems that they could have done a better job of reenforcing the attachment points. But I was talking about full on tents like Z Pack Hexamid tents that are ridiculously light, and expensive! Has anyone tried one of these in high winds conditions?