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Mentoring newbies

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:19 pm
by rhyang
This is the first season I've been back to climbing regularly since my accident, and I've been climbing with several newbies. They are smart, enthusiastic, and willing to seek out new experiences.

I don't think of myself as a "trad mentor" yet though. Mostly I just show them what I know and try to explain why I do things the way I was taught. Sometimes if there is an alternative I'll try to explain why some other folks prefer that, and let them make up their own minds. Sometimes I recommend books they can read or classes they can take from guides.

Really I kinda suck at teaching people things. But it feels good to see someone else getting better at this and having fun, no matter what the grade.

How do you mentor new climbers, and what has your experience been ?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:25 pm
by ShortTimer
Generally I invite them to Joshua Tree for a Thanksgiving weekend. Once there I encourage them to drink way too much around the campfire. When they can't get up the next morning I go an climb whatever I wanted to climb before coming back to camp to make fun of them.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:35 pm
by albanberg
I'm new and looking to get some climbing in...just in case anyone is interested in having me tag along. I've only done one rock class though...which went well I think.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:36 am
by xDoogiex
I'm a n00b and mentor other n00bz to be better n00bz

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:36 am
by norco17
xDoogiex wrote:I'm a n00b and mentor other n00bz to be better n00bz


+1

Life is good

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:04 pm
by woodsxc
Looking for someone to teach me rock and/or ice. Any Chicago-area SPers wanna drag my sorry n00b butt up some climbs?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:30 pm
by gegarrenton
xDoogiex wrote:I'm a n00b and mentor other n00bz to be better n00bz
+1 Yup.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:09 pm
by rhyang
ShortTimer wrote:Generally I invite them to Joshua Tree for a Thanksgiving weekend. Once there I encourage them to drink way too much around the campfire. When they can't get up the next morning I go an climb whatever I wanted to climb before coming back to camp to make fun of them.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:35 pm
by ShortTimer
rhyang wrote:
ShortTimer wrote:Generally I invite them to Joshua Tree for a Thanksgiving weekend. Once there I encourage them to drink way too much around the campfire. When they can't get up the next morning I go an climb whatever I wanted to climb before coming back to camp to make fun of them.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


This obviously works best with people from Northern California that don't really know me very well. I have tried the same technique in Tuolumne but I think the air there does something to people because they always get up in the morning to climb, no matter how much I coaxed them into drinking the night before. I find Tequila is the easiest way to accomplish my goals.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:45 pm
by SpiderSavage
After decades of training my parters I got sick of it and did two things:
1. Got a Soloist self-belay device and
2. Joined a climbing club where I had lots of access to potential partners. For this you might consider getting into the Sierra Nevada Section of the American Alpine Club. They have a pretty active schedule.

I won't train people any more unless they have passion for the sport.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:49 pm
by ksolem
Man, if you listen to Shortimer you would think he is the first one out of camp every morning or something...

On topic, there are two kinds of nubies. The ones that get it, and are as much fun as anyone, and the ones who don't... I choose my nubies with care.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:48 am
by drjohnso1182
ShortTimer wrote:Generally I invite them to Joshua Tree for a Thanksgiving weekend. Once there I encourage them to drink way too much around the campfire. When they can't get up the next morning I go an climb whatever I wanted to climb before coming back to camp to make fun of them.

I still climb like a n00b, but I learned pretty quickly not to drink like one :oops:

woodsxc wrote:Looking for someone to teach me rock and/or ice. Any Chicago-area SPers wanna drag my sorry n00b butt up some climbs?

I'm not qualified to teach and I can't drag you up anything, but if you have a pair of rock shoes and some money for gas, I'm usually game for new cragging partners, especially if you can occasionally be free on Fridays. Shoot me a PM.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:37 am
by ShortTimer
ksolem wrote:Man, if you listen to Shortimer you would think he is the first one out of camp every morning or something...

On topic, there are two kinds of nubies. The ones that get it, and are as much fun as anyone, and the ones who don't... I choose my nubies with care.


What?! Get up early to do the same route for the 45th time... Sleep is highly under-rated...

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:32 pm
by rhyang
ShortTimer wrote:
ksolem wrote:Man, if you listen to Shortimer you would think he is the first one out of camp every morning or something...

On topic, there are two kinds of nubies. The ones that get it, and are as much fun as anyone, and the ones who don't... I choose my nubies with care.


What?! Get up early to do the same route for the 45th time... Sleep is highly under-rated...


:lol: Thanksgiving '06 in JTree .. good times :)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:04 pm
by rhyang
I don't really train people either -- they have to know how to buckle their harness, belay, etc. This kind of knowledge isn't exactly hard to come by these days though :)

When I get to the top of a pitch and put my partner on belay, sometimes the rope goes tight. OK, time to have a snack while they figure it out (autolocking belay device) .. I might yell down some of my useless climbing tips if needed -

"Try smearing with your right foot !"

"Try jamming there !"

"I put my left side in !"

And occasionally "What ? No, I'm not going to lower you ! Just hang there and shake out the pump !"

If all else fails - "I can't hear yooou ! Too windy !"

:mrgreen: