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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:21 am
by ksolem
Intermediate=beginner... :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:51 am
by CClaude
why does it matter.....

In my mind I am a beginner, since everyday I'm out there I am always learning something new....

its called the beginners mind...........

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:19 pm
by FabienenCordoba
CClaude wrote:its called the beginners mind...........

That's nice, and it's probably the best way to go from beginner to intermediate to master of the art! :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:25 pm
by ksolem
jhodlof wrote:
ksolem wrote:Intermediate=beginner... :wink:


Ouch!

Are you on a lap top with a wireless connection?


Ha! Just to be clear it was a joke. Right now I am a beginner all over again...

(don't think I was on the laptop when I posted that ...)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:16 pm
by Luciano136
Take a newb on an outing; you'll see what 'beginner' means :shock: . I think there are a lot of small skills we take for granted after going out in the mountains for a few years.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:46 pm
by Andinistaloco
....Edited out a part I'm already sorry I mentioned....



CClaude wrote:why does it matter.....

In my mind I am a beginner, since everyday I'm out there I am always learning something new....

its called the beginners mind...........


I'm with you there. Zen mind, beginner's mind.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:11 pm
by ksolem
Perhaps more like "A key to achieving mastery is to know you are always beginning."

Not to put words in anyone's mouth. Just my take...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:23 pm
by SpiderSavage
Intermediate Requirements:
– TR a 5.9
– Bag Whitney by the Mountaineers Route
– Own all your own gear
– Know the grapevine knot and use it regularly
– Lead a 3-pitch route

...as decreed by Me, Mr. Know-It-All

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:28 pm
by Andinistaloco
squishy wrote:So the sign of a true master is the claim that they are a beginner?


In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities - but in the expert's mind, there are few.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:54 pm
by Snowslogger
When you can go to sleep before a climb 8)

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:45 am
by NeilD
When you progress from Green Circles to Blue Squares.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:26 pm
by John Duffield
Alipine-wise, supposedly, Aconcagua is a beginners mountain and Denali is an intermediate. So if you've done Denali, you're an intermediate.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:52 pm
by woodsxc
squishy wrote:When you can lead 5.8 in Yosemite Valley...


I top roped 5.8 at the gym today...

This was my second time climbing this year though.

Re: At what point does a beginner progress to an intermediat

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:39 am
by Joe White
jhodlof wrote:
When does a beginner climber become an intermediate climber.


When they know enough to be dangerous but not enough to be right

Re: At what point does a beginner progress to an intermediat

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:42 am
by John Duffield
Joe White wrote:When they know enough to be dangerous but not enough to be right


Sounds like the definition of a teenager.