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Did i miss it or... Cerro Torre, something happened...
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Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:05 pmby gabr1
Really, did i miss the discussion or does nobody care about what's going on in Patagonia in these days ??????????????
Looks like a few things have been going on, but where are the pages and pages of heated discussion?????????
Re: Did i miss it or... Cerro Torre, something happened...
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Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:32 pmby Baarb
Bolt chopping:
http://www.planetmountain.com/english/N ... eyid=39061David Lama free ascent:
http://www.planetmountain.com/english/N ... eyid=39067Definitely big news! Your post is the first I've heard of it on here. Lots going on on SuperTopo, not sure how many SPers discussing things there instead.
Edit: a combined account with more of the history and controversy of the route:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=66281
Re: Did i miss it or... Cerro Torre, something happened...
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Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:46 pmby gabr1
i Guess everyone has migrated there, i was following the discussion on supertopo, but am really surpised nobody is talking here.
Actually, the news is huge, and as most things connected to that mountain, quite controversial...
Still, whatever one's opinion might be, it's good to see history in the making.
Re: Did i miss it or... Cerro Torre, something happened...
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:35 amby dskoon
Big thread on it on CascadeClimbers as well. . .
Re: Did i miss it or... Cerro Torre, something happened...
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Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:46 pmby gabr1
Well, to me K&K showed the same arrogance Maestri used when he bolted that route.
One of the things i've been wondering about, reading the various discussions regards the pics of the bolted lines.
Especially the belay point with over ten bolts.
Is it certain those were Maestri's bolts or might they have been left there after the movie they shot there or by others?
Re: Did i miss it or... Cerro Torre, something happened...
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Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:38 pmby gabr1
I found a video taken by a bystander of the reaction of Kruk (or Kennedy, i'm not sure), when confronted with the fact the majority of the climbers in El Chalten had voted to leave the bolts up:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCF3xFVPt1w[/youtube]
Hard times in Patagonia...
Re: Did i miss it or... Cerro Torre, something happened...
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:43 amby Carbo
I guess the climbers have left SP:)
(Or the more mellow ones have stayed)
Either way Supertopo has a big discussion on it. I can see both sides of the issue: removing the "bolt ladder" or letting it stay as a piece of climbing history and let people have a go at it. The chop or not is always a difficult discussion. Climbing isn't a democracy and no one owns a climb (even if it seems so).