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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:23 pm
by MarthaP
Thanks, Damien!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:25 pm
by welle
John Duffield wrote:
Alpinisto wrote:
If there are a bunch of us SP'ers going to the Patagucci event next week, should we think about meeting up ahead of time for some beer and food (and beer)?

I nominate Welle to coordinate... :wink:


This place?

http://www.menupages.com/restaurants/zoe/?restaurantid=2314&page=6

about 5 blocks away

it's across the street from the new EMS ha ha


Zoe's menu doesn't show beer. Since Alpinisto suggested beer, maybe The Broome Street Bar? A perfect NYC dive :) http://broomestreetbar.ypguides.net/ What time?

P.S. may invite other local SPers as well...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:56 pm
by John Duffield
Ok. I like this one as well. It's also closer to Patagucci.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:52 pm
by Peak Freak
2_climbaxes wrote:After suffering through his last book, there is no way I'd spend a penny on another of his books. He is a tremendous climber, there is no question about that. But "No Shortcuts..." seemed like it was written by an 8th grader and left me very disappointed. I was expecting something much better from such an incredible climber.


Hmmmmmm.... although I read it ages ago, I do remember enjoying it. I'm still keen to read the next one.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:48 pm
by mstender
Peak Freak wrote:
2_climbaxes wrote:After suffering through his last book, there is no way I'd spend a penny on another of his books. He is a tremendous climber, there is no question about that. But "No Shortcuts..." seemed like it was written by an 8th grader and left me very disappointed. I was expecting something much better from such an incredible climber.


Hmmmmmm.... although I read it ages ago, I do remember enjoying it. I'm still keen to read the next one.


I did like it too actually. Maybe not the greatest mountaineering book ever, but I certainly enjoyed reading it. Maybe I'll pick it up again though.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:41 pm
by Kiefer
welle wrote:I don't know about this, but I'm looking forward to my Steve House book and also seeing him in person at NYC Patagonia store!


I saw that he was recently in Boulder doing a signing. Sucks.
I swear, living in the mountains, Denver could disappear tomorrow and we wouldn't hear about it until the next day. :x
Would have been way-cool to see S. House.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:28 pm
by RickF
This is a very disjointed and confusing thread. It starts out about Viesturs' new book about K2 then goes off in a direction about Steve House and a book signing for his new book.

Some like it, some say it sucked, some imply that he has no personality and he's a boring speaker. What the readers of these posts can't tell is which author/climber these remarks are aimed at, Steve House or Ed Viesturs?

I've read several climbing/mountain books, many of which were discussed on SP. In my opinion, "No Shortcuts to the Top" by Ed Viesturs was one of the most enjoyable.

I just got the new Lynn Hill book, but after I finish it I'll check out Steve House's book.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:58 am
by John Duffield
RickF wrote:This is a very disjointed and confusing thread. It starts out about Viesturs' new book about K2 then goes off in a direction about Steve House and a book signing for his new book.

Some like it, some say it sucked, some imply that he has no personality and he's a boring speaker. What the readers of these posts can't tell is which author/climber these remarks are aimed at, Steve House or Ed Viesturs?

I've read several climbing/mountain books, many of which were discussed on SP. In my opinion, "No Shortcuts to the Top" by Ed Viesturs was one of the most enjoyable.

I just got the new Lynn Hill book, but after I finish it I'll check out Steve House's book.


I'll apologize for my part in that. We should probably start a new thread for the Steve House party in the Eastern U.S. section.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:17 am
by MarthaP
RickF wrote:This is a very disjointed and confusing thread. It starts out about Viesturs' new book about K2 then goes off in a direction about Steve House and a book signing for his new book.

Some like it, some say it sucked, some imply that he has no personality and he's a boring speaker. What the readers of these posts can't tell is which author/climber these remarks are aimed at, Steve House or Ed Viesturs?


Viesturs.

RickF wrote:I've read several climbing/mountain books, many of which were discussed on SP. In my opinion, "No Shortcuts to the Top" by Ed Viesturs was one of the most enjoyable.

I just got the new Lynn Hill book, but after I finish it I'll check out Steve House's book.


Yes, we are a rambling bunch. It's like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're going to get. And it's all tasty. You just have to hang in there and read the entire thread.

If you want really enjoyable material, read Bonatti's The Mountains of My Life, follow it with Charles Houston's K2: the Savage Mountain, and wrap it up with Boukreev's Above the Clouds. And that's just for starters.

The above information has nothing to do with Viestur's book other than it's reading about great mountain adventures, most of which include K2 which is what Viestur's latest release is about.

Follow? :D

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:18 pm
by Arthur Digbee
I've read the first two chapters of Viesturs' new book so far, and he is certainly not a master of prose style.

The first chapter diagnoses the mistakes of the 2008 expeditions. He wasn't there, so I'm sure some will view it as unfair.

The second tells the story of his 1992 summit of K2, when he didn't follow his own gut, and got away with it. He spends a lot more time on the choices of the other climbers that year than on his own decisions.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:49 pm
by taxinvestor
Arthur Digbee wrote:He spends a lot more time on the choices of the other climbers that year than on his own decisions.


I find this is the case with many mountaineering books. The author makes all the right moves while most of the other climbers mentioned are guilty of various mistakes.

+1 for The Mountains of My Life

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:34 pm
by xDoogiex
I wish I still lived on the east coast so I could see Steve house.

I loved no shortcuts to the top but he discussed his whole 92 K2 experience in it. Why make a book about it?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:40 pm
by Cookie Addict
RickF wrote:
I've read several climbing/mountain books, many of which were discussed on SP. In my opinion, "No Shortcuts to the Top" by Ed Viesturs was one of the most enjoyable.

I just got the new Lynn Hill book, but after I finish it I'll check out Steve House's book.


What NEW Lynn Hill book? has she written another bio or is it a collection to stories. Just checked and Amazon only has "Climbing Free"

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:06 pm
by Arthur Digbee
xDoogiex wrote:I loved no shortcuts to the top but he discussed his whole 92 K2 experience in it. Why make a book about it?

The new book is about a half-dozen years on the mountain, only one of which was his year.

So he has an opportunity to second-guess everybody else.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:17 am
by jspeigl
Arthur Digbee wrote:

So he has an opportunity to second-guess everybody else.


He'd make a perfect fit here with the SP community.