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MikeTX wrote:the purest water is produced by civil engineers, not mother nature.

the purest water is produced by a chemist with a bottle of pure H and a bottle of pure O

mconnell wrote:

MikeTX wrote:the purest water is produced by civil engineers, not mother nature.

the purest water is produced by a chemist with a bottle of pure H and a bottle of pure O

It's probably harder to get that kind of purity in the separate gases. I realize you are joking, because the two make a bomb.

Simple double-distilling -- maybe after ion exchange -- can produce water with a very high resistivity.

Winex wrote:Last year I hiked Elbert and was feeling tired, probably from drinking heavily the day before and not aclimating properly. I drank a small bottle of an energy drink, the first time I ever tried one. I was amazed how well it worked. In five minutes I felt great and had no problems finishing the hike. I was just curious if anyone else has tried these drinks while hiking. Any downsides, like strokes, heart attacks, jitters? I take them on all my trips now.

okay here's some pertinent information

1) as stated those "energy drinks" are basically just caffeine. they have other crap that doesn't matter.

as mentioned by fossana, caffeine does indeed have a performance benefit - why is not clearly understood but at the very least it reduces the rate of perceived exertion, i.e. makes a given effort feel less painful than before.

constant use would lead to adaptation and less of an effect, but anyways caffeine should not be mainly relied upon because it is not actually boosting your energy storage

2) Glycogen is your main energy storage. fatigue and "hitting the wall" are symptoms that you have severely depleted your glycogen reserves. eating high carb diet days before will improve greatly - however when you are already on hike day, then you should be taking in ~ 200 kcal / hour (dependent on bodymass) of fast absorbing carbs (like someone mentioned, [url]GU[/url]is one example) as your body will be able to use this for energy.

you can take this every hour repeatedly (caffeine probably only gives one "boost").

obviously hydration is important too but keeping glycogen high is probably the best "performance enhancement" you can do

KristoriaBlack wrote:In fact, the stuff you drink is only the first step in the making of Sigma water... its why idiots like me pay $30 for 100mL of water, because PURE water is neither cheap nor easy to find:

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/analytical- ... water.html

..even in the untouched corners of the world.

I assume you are just using this stuff in your lab for analytical chemistry and biochemistry work - and not for your drinking water? And if it is for your drinking water how do you get it into your body without altering it purity (particularly the oxygen and carbon dioxide free stuff) - because that is some really pure stuff, and pure water doesn't like to stay pure very long!!!

Long ago, I heard the claim that when the stomach "senses" the sugar in it is above a certain level, the water is retained in the stomach by physical means (duodenum closes a bit?) until the sugar is absorbed.

Continuing with the heuristics: there are sophisticated mechanisms of chemical exchange that transport molecules against concentration gradients, depending on chemical conditions quite removed from the materials being transported; maybe that is what we really mean. Consider the neurotransmitter cascade that occurs when the brain gets depleted of O2. The ion pump system goes haywire, and the cells suddenly swell with fluid to the point of death.

Kristoria, you are trying to correct what is either a misstatment or ignorance with well thought out reasoning and documented facts- all while on the internet. I have found that, at times, very difficult to do.

mrchad9 wrote:Kristoria, you are trying to correct what is either a misstatment or ignorance with well thought out reasoning and documented facts- all while on the internet. I have found that, at times, very difficult to do.

in my experience, it's rather an impossible task

Sometimes I add DHMO to my water, despite all the warnings.

http://dhmo.org/

EnragedTroll wrote:Fuck, I can't take it anymore! I managed to ignore this for days, but there is enough fail ITT to troll a troll:

- "Health advice" based on religious bias, imparted for our enlightenment with incredibly irritating phrases such as "porn as pain control".

-Quack Newage BS from another clueless cuntbucket, "sugar bound to water". Go detox yourself to death, fucker. Spare us your stupidity.

-A scientist who pays assrape Sigma prices and bends over for their obscene S&H charges just to buy RNase- & endotoxin-free water. The only things that are good deals from Sigma are bulk non-purified (ascites fluid) monoclonal antibodies. They tend to be very concentrated so they deliver a lot of Westerns and IPs for the buck.

GET A BRAIN, MORANS!!!

I think someone needs a back rub and a cookie. And it is moron not moran, guess you were too busy getting a brain to learn basic spelling.

EnragedTroll wrote:Hey James: facepalm.jpg

(Now he is going to think I don't know how to use the img BBCode)

I fixed it for you. You are welcome.

James_W wrote:

EnragedTroll wrote:Fuck, I can't take it anymore!

I think someone needs a back rub and a cookie.

Or a fatty llama steak

James_W wrote:

EnragedTroll wrote:Fuck, I can't take it anymore! I managed to ignore this for days, but there is enough fail ITT to troll a troll:

- "Health advice" based on religious bias, imparted for our enlightenment with incredibly irritating phrases such as "porn as pain control".

-Quack Newage BS from another clueless cuntbucket, "sugar bound to water". Go detox yourself to death, fucker. Spare us your stupidity.

-A scientist who pays assrape Sigma prices and bends over for their obscene S&H charges just to buy RNase- & endotoxin-free water. The only things that are good deals from Sigma are bulk non-purified (ascites fluid) monoclonal antibodies. They tend to be very concentrated so they deliver a lot of Westerns and IPs for the buck.

GET A BRAIN, MORANS!!!

I think someone needs a back rub and a cookie. And it is moron not moran, guess you were too busy getting a brain to learn basic spelling.

Ahh moran is the mega-cybernet version.

I think Llama steaks are too ugly for anyone to eat.

If you had passed through the digestive tract of a cat, you might be angry as well.

EnragedTroll wrote:Oh hey, llama fucker, you are so lucky you got Conness in last week. The weekend was full of thunder and lightning.

Dude, luck had nothing to do with it. I knew very well what the weekend had in store

We have this thing called 'National Weather Service'