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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:22 pm
by Bob Sihler
Mountain Impulse wrote:If you really like this job and there is opportunity for advancement, don't even ask. There are worse things than a "no" answer: a "no" and a lasting impression on your supervisor that "this guy doesn't have very good judgment even asking in the circumstances". First impressions are lasting.

Should you ask and get a go-ahead, you risk frosting your colleagues with your seeming audacity.


So are you saying he should just go or that he should cancel the trip?

Re: Time Off

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:26 pm
by MoapaPk
soronely wrote:Don't live your life afraid what others think of you, ask for the time off.
You didn't mention it during the interview, who fucking cares...live a little.
Do what is in your best interest, it's your life.
Go on the trip.


And then be the first one fired in a down-sizing.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:37 pm
by SpiderSavage
If you want to keep that job, skip the trip.

If you don't care that much for the job. Go for it.

Don't tell them what you are really doing (hard not to brag to fellow employees). When taking time off for fun call it "personal business." I hear that in Colorado they call it "Powder Rules."


And don't post anything on Facebook about it either. Unless your are a complete idiot.

Speaking as a former HR manager.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:44 pm
by Augie Medina
Bob Sihler wrote:
Mountain Impulse wrote:If you really like this job and there is opportunity for advancement, don't even ask. There are worse things than a "no" answer: a "no" and a lasting impression on your supervisor that "this guy doesn't have very good judgment even asking in the circumstances". First impressions are lasting.

Should you ask and get a go-ahead, you risk frosting your colleagues with your seeming audacity.


So are you saying he should just go or that he should cancel the trip?


I'm saying he should cancel his trip. I guess my second paragraph confused things.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:53 pm
by kakakiw
Is this a job that you want to hold onto,or is it a stepping stone? Think long and hard. In today's world, you might want to keep the job until you are 100% certain you have a well thought out back up plan.
Your boss might let you go on your trip, but chances are you won't have the job when you get back. Or if they need to cut positions later, you may be on the shitty end of the stick.
Live and learn.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:55 pm
by MoapaPk

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:19 am
by mrchad9
SpiderSavage wrote:If you want to keep that job, skip the trip.
If you don't care that much for the job. Go for it.
Don't tell them what you are really doing (hard not to brag to fellow employees). When taking time off for fun call it "personal business." I hear that in Colorado they call it "Powder Rules."
And don't post anything on Facebook about it either. Unless your are a complete idiot.
Speaking as a former HR manager.

I've never heard of enjoying yourself on your time off as being something that would aggrivate fellow employees. Interesting places folks seem to work.

Office Space is fantastic! My company recently rolled out it's version of TPS reports. Makes me laugh all the time.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:26 am
by MoapaPk
mrchad9 wrote:I've never heard of enjoying yourself on your time off as being something that would aggrivate fellow employees. Interesting places folks seem to work.


If other employees think a person is getting special treatment, they can be quite angry. If they are required to work while another person is allowed to take vacation on the spur of the moment, they can get really angry. AH SEEN IT!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:29 am
by brianhughes
Volunteer to get on the laptop an hour or so each day (if it's that type of job, and if you have access), just to take care of the critical tasks and to keep plugged into the system.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:51 am
by Bob Sihler
Keep in mind that in this economy, jobs aren't falling from the sky; they're falling into bottomless pits. Not a great idea to push things as the new guy. Again, that's if you like the job or really need it.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:58 am
by JJBrunner
If you lose the job, you'll have more time to climb!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:45 am
by butitsadryheat
Are you friggin' serious? You have to ask?

Decide whether you want the job or not. That will answer your question.