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Daria wrote:Oh, I just realized that I'm wearing that SC shirt again in the pic on the previous page

Daria wrote:how creative can you get when you order the t-shirts? Like, can I request a color/design, etc.?

toxo wrote:Yet another condescending assumption courtesy of the patriarchal tyranny misogynist brigade. Count the personality disorders in this pic, bitterfag. Then go gay marry Buzzard, and divorce him for different flavors of bitterness.

Sierra Ledge Rat wrote:

toxo wrote:Yet another condescending assumption courtesy of the patriarchal tyranny misogynist brigade. Count the personality disorders in this pic, bitterfag. Then go gay marry Buzzard, and divorce him for different flavors of bitterness.

No, what I said is really true. Not PC, but true nonetheless.

The prepondance of personality disorders amongst women in certain realms is actually caused by men and male dominance.

You see it all the time in the male-dominated corporate world, if I may use that as an example. The men who claw their way to the top of corparate ladder have excessive personality disorder traits; it's a self-selecting process. Normal people say, "Fuck this shit" and drop out of the rat race.

Now throw a female into this environment - and you've really got a mess. Some say that women "have" to be tough to climb the male-dominated corporate ladder (which is true), but there is also a self-selection process. The women who claw their way upwards are, well,.... there is generally something wrong with them from the perspective of personality disorders (just like the men, but worse). That's not to say these women are not capable; there are a lot of highly-intelligent, high-functioning borderline personality types (men and women) who are doctors and lawyers and corporate executives. It's a self-selecting process.

I will repeat that all of this has been caused by men and male-dominated society.

Now as women make in-roads (as they should) - then more and more "normal" women (not just the psychos) rise to higher and higher levels. This applies to any realm that has been historically male dominated, including climbing.

And maybe someday when we evolve to a female-dominated society, we'll see some real improvements like tampon machines in metro stations.

toxo wrote:Ratty my dear, first of all, I believe you are missing the sarcasm in my statement. Buzzard has that handicap, too. That's one reason I suggested you two would be perfect for each other.

Daria is often criticized for being a pathological liar, and an exhibitionist. Yours truly is known to be an arrogant, selfish, narcissistic asshole. I was agreeing with you that there seem to be certain characteristics which correlate with... females in climbing.

Sierra Ledge Rat wrote:The prepondance of personality disorders amongst women in certain realms is actually caused by men and male dominance.

You see it all the time in the male-dominated corporate world, if I may use that as an example. The men who claw their way to the top of corparate ladder have excessive personality disorder traits; it's a self-selecting process. Normal people say, "Fuck this shit" and drop out of the rat race.

Now throw a female into this environment - and you've really got a mess. Some say that women "have" to be tough to climb the male-dominated corporate ladder (which is true), but there is also a self-selection process. The women who claw their way upwards are, well,.... there is generally something wrong with them from the perspective of personality disorders (just like the men, but worse). That's not to say these women are not capable; there are a lot of highly-intelligent, high-functioning borderline personality types (men and women) who are doctors and lawyers and corporate executives. It's a self-selecting process.

I fully agree with those cognizant observations.

However, as far as full on mental illness goes, I am of the opinion that people with certain disorders such as bipolar should be killed with fire, and their close relatives tested for the disorder. Think about how much crime and general misery reduction we'd see.

Sierra Ledge Rat wrote:And maybe someday when we evolve to a female-dominated society, we'll see some real improvements like tampon machines in metro stations.

That would be too sexist. I'd like to see penis sound vending machines, too.

You ever sound a guy? How was it? Did they cry and whimper, like it, or both? When I got sounded, it hurt only a little.

Sierra Ledge Rat wrote:And maybe someday when we evolve to a female-dominated society, we'll see some real improvements.

Sierra Ledge Rat wrote:Daria, I agree with you, and I glossed over this when I said briefly, "...Some say that women "have" to be tough to climb the male-dominated corporate ladder (which is true)..."

But my main point is that people who undertake certain endeavors have personality disorders because normal people just do not strive for those goals. Runnning for a national political office is an example. All politicians have serious personality disorders, because only people with personality disorders would subject themselves to such an ordeal, and only people with personality disorders are conniving enough and manipulative enough to do so. Likewise, any woman who tries to get a place on a men's sport team has, de facto, a personality disorder. That's not saying that these people are incapable or dumb.

BTW, anyone who says that personality disorders do not exist has never dealt with anyone with a personality disorder - or simply did not recognize the personality disorder.