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mrchad9 wrote:

JHH60 wrote:So if someone climbs Liberty RIdge on Rainier, tops out at 14,200' after 7000 vertical feet of alpine ice climbing, and (as most people seem to do) doesn't bother to take the techncially trivial detour over to Columbia Crest, but instead heads down the Emmons Glacier, would you not give them credit for successfully climbing Mt. Rainier?

Of course not.

If you don't stand on the highest point, then you didn't climb Mt. Rainier. The individual would have (argueably) successfully completed the Liberty Ridge route however.

It's all so very confusing. Someone who has climbed Liberty Ridge has (arguably) demonstrated much more competent climbing skills than someone who has walked up the DC route. But perhaps they haven't demonstrated summiting skills. So I suppose someone who climbs the Nose but doesn't walk to the high point of El Capitan afterwards can't claim to have successfully climbed El Cap, whereas someone who hikes up to it via the Yosemite Falls route can. It would be so much easier if the Elves changed the name from "Climber's Log" to "Summiter's Log".

I don't see why it is confusing.

If you want to climb Liberty Ridge, then go up Liberty Ridge. If you want to climb Mount Rainier, then stand on the summit.

If you go up Liberty Ridge, but not the summit of Rainier, then sign the Liberty Ridge route log and leave the Rainier one alone (or don't check the box). Easy.