I'm giving this page 4 stars because I think I know what you're tying to accomplish, and I think it's a good idea.
Hope I can add to it later this Spring.
The finished product will be very helpful. You've got a good thing going. As this page grows over time, it would be good to catagorize the routes under their respective ranges (wasatch, uinta, etc.) Keep it up!
I greatly appreciate your time and effort, I'm going to college at the U this fall and I'm excited to give these a try.
You're getting a lot of flak for this page, but I think that so far it looks to be a nice overview of semi-technical and technical routes in the Wasatch. There is room for improvement, and I would be happy to help. I'll e-mail you more about ideas later.
BTW, once concern from SPers is if you have gotten permission from the submitters of existing routes to link to them. I don't know whether or not you have, but while I doubt that the submitters would care, it would be a good courtesy to extend and to avoid controversy over copyright issues.
Oh, and two more things - perhaps you should have a technical i ce (AI or WI) rating that is separate from the snow ratings. For the 4th class rating, technically a route is considered 3rd when hands are used mostly for balance, and 4th when hands & upper body are needed actively (e.g. lifting, pulling, hand jambs) to make upward progress.
This is becoming a better page - nice overview.
I'm not sure this belongs on summitpost. Obviously it is easier to create this page on summitpost, than on your own. I'm willing to see where it comes out. For now, check your spelling "differnet formats???"
Also, no point to this page without photos to give it some life of its own, and to better describe what you are talking about.
Utah has plenty of coverage for the Wasatch and Uinta...so I hope this page does not regurgitate content from those already great pages.
Keep going with it.
Interesting page. We will know when you are done with this page when you have submitted as many maps having Provo on the left side as the Eastern Alps folks have submitted maps with Villach at the top
I like it. I can tell you worked you're ass off writing this page.
I started out having doubts about this page but it has turned out great. Nice work.
Looking much better. Nice work, it seams like a valuable resource now.
I haven't climbed in Utah yet, but when I do, this page will come in handy. Great resource!
I withheld judgment until I saw a better representation and I like it a lot. Wonderful job. This page will continually grow and require much attention, which I know you are prepared to give or you wouldn't have done it. Well executed concept. Excellent and congratulations!
Initially I thought this was not the best approach to doing things but man, you really put some work into this! Looks good and quite useful (yet another "tic list" to consider :)
Glenn, this is a great resource. It breaks from the structure of SP somewhat, but is a nice summary and a better implementation of the European Groups page archetype. Keep up the good work!
a very useful and well done job starting from a fine idea !!
I changed it to a list. I made the page in SPv1 and list wasn't an option.
I don't know what this page looked like at first to cause some of the critical feedback I read on it, but this is an excellent page now; it's very useful and I'm glad it's here.
Might I suggest adding a section for the Lone Peak Cirque in the Alpine Rock section -- It's often overlooked but has the best multi-pitch routes in the Wasatch, hands down.
Thanks for putting this together Glenn. It's a great resource.