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What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:23 pm
by Luc
since we're on MBPost subject, if it doesn't have a cliff or mountain etc...
Can it be kept on MBPost and not double posted on SummitPost please?

http://www.summitpost.org/r-gen-island/633025

Butterfly, lighthouse, flower, beaches, cow, pastures...
Summitpost is getting swamped by 'beautifull' and useless information that doesn't correspond to the 'theme' of the site.

When I look a what's new on Summitpost, do I want to see a lighthouse?
NO, If I did, I'd go to http://www.topthings.org/2007/11/27/the-most-beautiful-lighthouses-of-the-world/.

I'm here for climbing related info, not butterflies.

I'm sorry Visentin, if your album really irked me, it's just that I'm getting tired of seeing hundreds of pics of the same useless stuff

I'd Love to see the whole point system disappear. The point system turns a lot of members into point padding zombies like users of farmville...

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:33 pm
by JasonH
This topic has been beat to death in the past. I suggest voting what you feel the page is worth and moving on.

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:30 pm
by Dow Williams
Luc, you find me a programmer or code writer worth his/her weight in commodities (wheat would be fine, in other words, worth being paid) we will take this to a whole new level...until that time we are stuck sifting through this archaic compilation of mostly worthless material.

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:09 pm
by MoapaPk
How about pictures of snakes?

(That's a picture of a Mojave Green, from Summitpost. If you climb off the desert around here, it's good to know what these guys look like.)

I guess I never go through the latest pictures, so this stuff never intrudes on my consciousness. So I just looked at the 30 newest "best" photos. Out of 30, 7 seemed somewhat arty. I didn't include the picture of a meadow, because that was useful information -- looks like a good place to camp. I recall looking all over summitpost (when the search engine was goofy) for a picture of Sam Mack meadow -- I wanted to see if there were places to hang bear bags. That sort of info is relevant to people heading up to the Palisades.

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:16 pm
by Luc
MoapaPk wrote:How about pictures of snakes?

(That's a picture of a Mojave Green, from Summitpost. If you climb off the desert around here, it's good to know what these guys look like.)


That picture is informative with the right caption, such as:
' :!: don't touch or else you'll be sucking blood :!: ' or
'great non-venomous snake to scare the shit out of someone' :twisted: .

but if the caption was 'nice snake on road'...

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:41 pm
by Dow Williams
snakes and bears (oh my!) are totally relevant beta....I jammed a crack once with a rattler, took a photo of him pissed off and added it to the route beta...a few years back on descent of an alpine climb I walked right up on a female griz eating berries, I mean like 20'....too late...just kept walking and snapped a quick photo which I would not have done if the volume was not deactivated on it....I love objectionable hazard beta....glacier ice crashing, grizzly paw prints, poop, rattlers, black widow nest stuffed in a chimney climb (came home itchy from that one)...even the various seasons of flowering cacti on approach....all good shit (sometimes literally) to be sure.

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:16 am
by lcarreau
Luc wrote:Butterfly, lighthouse, flower, beaches, cow, pastures...
Summitpost is getting swamped by 'beautifull' and useless information that doesn't correspond to the 'theme' of the site.


Image

You mean I gotta remove my two butterfly pictures and one cow picture from the Site ???

You know, it's sooooo easy to see who's solely on this Site for votes !
:roll:

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:29 am
by lcarreau
What about SUNSETS ? A lotta them being posted lately, and what do they gotta do with the price
of tea in China ???

:?

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Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:00 pm
by Luc
Leghorn:
What I'm trying to convey is that 3 shots of the same lighthouse (taken seconds apart) from a field is purely stats padding and doesn't add any relevant value to the information on this site.
Voting 1 star on those pictures won't get rid of them, they'll just create some vindictive backlash from the owner and his voting guild.

I wouldn't mind seeing a 'spam' button on pictures and pages though.

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:38 pm
by mvs
My feeling is that some people must be using SP to store all their photos, that accounts for the many "mundane" pictures that don't really serve anyone. I wouldn't assume it's vote or power grubbing. A long time ago I learned that watching the "new photos" feed was a waste of time...much better to watch ranges, TRs, and other such objects that contain curated photo content.

The cloud is the safest place for your data. The only drawback is a few grumblers looking at the raw streams. :D

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:00 am
by lcarreau
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Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:10 am
by lcarreau
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Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:42 am
by Luc

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:23 am
by Bob Sihler
lcarreau wrote:Image


Best picture ever on SP, and with the best caption, too-- "SP Photo of the Decade."

Unfortunately, the person who submitted it, a good climber and solid contributor, left shortly after that out of disgust with the photo culture on SP.

Okay, I'll stop beating the dead horse before I really get started...

Re: What information is relevent to Summitpost?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:37 am
by visentin
Luc wrote:since we're on MBPost subject, if it doesn't have a cliff or mountain etc...
Can it be kept on MBPost and not double posted on SummitPost please?
http://www.summitpost.org/r-gen-island/633025
Butterfly, lighthouse, flower, beaches, cow, pastures...
Summitpost is getting swamped by 'beautifull' and useless information that doesn't correspond to the 'theme' of the site.
When I look a what's new on Summitpost, do I want to see a lighthouse?
NO, If I did, I'd go to http://www.topthings.org/2007/11/27/the-most-beautiful-lighthouses-of-the-world/.
I'm here for climbing related info, not butterflies.
I'm sorry Visentin, if your album really irked me, it's just that I'm getting tired of seeing hundreds of pics of the same useless stuff
I'd Love to see the whole point system disappear. The point system turns a lot of members into point padding zombies like users of farmville...


Hi Luc !
Kind of frustrated to see that the reproach comes from another french-speaker :( (haven't we exchanged before ?)
Sorry if my album disturbs you. No eight thousanders, no seracs, no challenging ice-climbs. That's your vision of SP. I'm not sure it's the vision of everyone. As far as I know, all kind of hiking terrain and nature pictures have room here is SP, as long as it makes outdoor terrain. Have you been on Rügen to tell if the topic is unappropriate ? No.
True, some of these places were visited by bike, but I see no problem for them being here, as long as the area is also a place for hiking, and bike-related pictures do not appear.
The same was said about my Karkonosze album. My reply was : if you don't like it, ignore it. I'm tempted to reply you the same.
Similar remarks were said also about my Janosik article, however selected by the elves for the front page. The negative remarks about it being unrelated to mountains tell a lot about the cultural level about those who posted them.
If my Rügen album disturbs more people, may I ask also for deletion the highest points of Denmark, Netherlands, Monaco and Vatican, and many others, as well as few great submissions (that's my only opinion !) like Lake Erie, Lake Michigan, Lake Superior.
Talking about lakes, Luc, I see that your only "mountain" is a lake, a bloc of text with 15 times the same photo attached at the bottom. If you have some spare time, may I suggest to improve it, instead of launching such polemics on the forum...
Eric
p.s relevant, not relevent