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Does this peak really exist???

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:12 pm
by nader
Recently a page was made on Summitpost for a 13961 ft Mt. Andrea at the southern end of the Sawatch Range (Marshall Pass/Mt. Ouray area):

Mt. Andrea

Please see the comments I left on that page. The submitter obviously has no personal information about that peak and has copied everything word for word from the Wikipedia link that he puts at the bottom of the page. I am just very curious as to where Wikipedia got its info. I do not think such a peak exists at all. Is Mt. Andrea another name for Mt. Ouray?

Re: Does this peak really exist???

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:24 pm
by CSUMarmot
Quick LOJ search shows no 'Andrea' in CO, nor a peak with the elevation 13961.

Re: Does this peak really exist???

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:30 pm
by Bob Sihler
Well, that peak no longer exists on SummitPost at least. Thank you for pointing out that it was copied from Wikipedia; I never bothered checking the link before.

Here is the wiki link in case folks want to continue the discussion about the peak: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Andrea.

Re: Does this peak really exist???

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:22 am
by Baarb
Looks like the Mt Ouray page with a few names changed here and there for someone's personal amusement. I expect it will get deleted off Wikipedia sooner rather than later.

Re: Does this peak really exist???

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:28 am
by donhaller3
This isn't my fight, but....

One of the cites on the Wiki page is a NOAA/NGS data sheet for,er, well, Mt. Andrea. I made a sort of independant check of the Chaffee County, Colorado database, and there is a PID that corresponds to the Mt. Andrea data sheet PID. The lat/long seem inconsistent with Mt. Andrea being even a sub-summit of Ourey.

A summit altitude to the nearest foot will differ from datum to datum and therfore from list to list.

Local names sometimes do not always correspond to bureaucratic names. Mt. Pitt is an older name still used locally for Mt. McLoughlin and Thielson was originally (Big?) Cowhorn. Federal and state officials could never reconcile themselves to Whorehouse Flats in Harney County, Oregon, though some newer maps refer to Naughty Girl Meadows.

Did anyone email the poster of the page in question?

I will not post further.

Don

Re: Does this peak really exist???

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:48 pm
by RyanS
I proposed the Wikipedia page for deletion. It's a copy of the Mount Ouray page.