that. Weird question, but does the name have anything to do with Fleetwood Mac or did Bob Welch borrow "Future Games" from the Rock? Nice page by btw, love that sunset shot!!
Interesting name, indeed. I have serious doubts in regards to the name having anything to do with "Fleetwood Mac." The rock was discovered and climbed over thirty years ago. At that time, people didn't climb 5.13 slabs, but they did see the potential.
The potential did become reality when "Games Without Frontiers, 13a/b" was put up
in the early 90s. I think the name "Future Games Rock" was conceived by the early climbers who found the formation. I started climbing on it in the early 90s as well.
Thanks for dropping by and the compliment, Bill,
Marc
Fleetwood Mac released an album in 1971 titled "Future Games". Never thought much about that title until I saw your page. I'll have to give the title song a listen and see what it's about.
Bill, I think I remember the album "Future Games."
I could ask my friend Herb Laeger, who put up a couple of routes there if he know anything about where the name came from. I would not be surprised if he is the one that named the rock. It sounds like him. I could add the history to me page. If you find anything in this regard let me know, if you would. Thanks,
Thank you Kris. That one must have gotten past me. I'll see if I can add it to the page.
I have a question. Do you know who named this formation? Some one was asking me that.
To tell you the truth it sounds like Herb Laeger to me, but I may be way off base on that.
I had heard the crag was named by Mike Lechlinski and Mari Gingery but that is word of mouth...
The fa's as listed in Bartlett's Pinto Basin guide are:
Exploding Brow Nodules - Roger Whitehead Rb DeConto, Brad Burhow 1985
Orno-Necro - Lechlinski & Ericksson 1986
Therapuetic Tyranny - Long & Lechlinky tr 1978 / Woodward lead 1982
The Bendix Claws - Lechlinky 1986
Hang 'em High - Solem, Laeger, McCollum 1995
Games Without Frontiers - Paul borne
Invisible Touch - Laeger & Andy Brown 1986
Invisiblity Lessons - Lechlinsky, Long, Mari Gingery 1986
Dissapearing Act - Laeger, Andy Brown and Vaino Kodas 1986
note: I had the name wrong for the invisiblity lessons variation in my previous comment. It is called Invisible Touch.
Also, Jan McCollum has told me several times that he and Mike Waugh did Invisibility Lessons at least a year before the FA and called it Bee Crack.
Also, Jan and Herb shared in the bolt placements (on lead of course) on Hang 'Em High and we TR'd it then, I got the first lead the following season.
Thank you for all the info Kris. I will change the name of the one I had missed. Invisible Touch does sound more like Herb than Disappearing Finger.
All the best,
Marc
Marc - Here's an obscurity for you. Climb Bendix Claws 'till you're just above the crux, about half way up, do a difficult traverse left and finish up the left hand crack. I did it around X-mas one of those years with Jan (Herb was probably there too..) We called it Santa Claws, but figured it had to be done previously, at least as a TR..
The cool thing about Future Games Rock is that every route follows a natural line. Even the nearly featureless slab of Games Without Frontiers follows a direct line of weakness to the thin seams which then take one to the top.
More words of wisdom from you, Kris. I have a confession to make. One time I tried to top rope, or at least try to get on, Games W/O Frontiers. I had a hard time even sticking to any of the holds, never mind making a move.
I will attach your comment about "Natural Lines" to the page.
Bill Reed - May 20, 2009 8:06 pm - Voted 10/10
Interesting name.........that. Weird question, but does the name have anything to do with Fleetwood Mac or did Bob Welch borrow "Future Games" from the Rock? Nice page by btw, love that sunset shot!!
Marcsoltan - May 20, 2009 8:36 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Interesting name.........Interesting name, indeed. I have serious doubts in regards to the name having anything to do with "Fleetwood Mac." The rock was discovered and climbed over thirty years ago. At that time, people didn't climb 5.13 slabs, but they did see the potential.
The potential did become reality when "Games Without Frontiers, 13a/b" was put up
in the early 90s. I think the name "Future Games Rock" was conceived by the early climbers who found the formation. I started climbing on it in the early 90s as well.
Thanks for dropping by and the compliment, Bill,
Marc
Bill Reed - May 21, 2009 8:55 am - Voted 10/10
Re: Interesting name.........Fleetwood Mac released an album in 1971 titled "Future Games". Never thought much about that title until I saw your page. I'll have to give the title song a listen and see what it's about.
Marcsoltan - May 21, 2009 9:35 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Interesting name.........Bill, I think I remember the album "Future Games."
I could ask my friend Herb Laeger, who put up a couple of routes there if he know anything about where the name came from. I would not be surprised if he is the one that named the rock. It sounds like him. I could add the history to me page. If you find anything in this regard let me know, if you would. Thanks,
Marcsoltan - May 25, 2009 10:45 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Disappearing finger...Thank you Kris. That one must have gotten past me. I'll see if I can add it to the page.
I have a question. Do you know who named this formation? Some one was asking me that.
To tell you the truth it sounds like Herb Laeger to me, but I may be way off base on that.
ksolem - May 26, 2009 2:57 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: Disappearing finger...I had heard the crag was named by Mike Lechlinski and Mari Gingery but that is word of mouth...
The fa's as listed in Bartlett's Pinto Basin guide are:
Exploding Brow Nodules - Roger Whitehead Rb DeConto, Brad Burhow 1985
Orno-Necro - Lechlinski & Ericksson 1986
Therapuetic Tyranny - Long & Lechlinky tr 1978 / Woodward lead 1982
The Bendix Claws - Lechlinky 1986
Hang 'em High - Solem, Laeger, McCollum 1995
Games Without Frontiers - Paul borne
Invisible Touch - Laeger & Andy Brown 1986
Invisiblity Lessons - Lechlinsky, Long, Mari Gingery 1986
Dissapearing Act - Laeger, Andy Brown and Vaino Kodas 1986
note: I had the name wrong for the invisiblity lessons variation in my previous comment. It is called Invisible Touch.
Also, Jan McCollum has told me several times that he and Mike Waugh did Invisibility Lessons at least a year before the FA and called it Bee Crack.
Also, Jan and Herb shared in the bolt placements (on lead of course) on Hang 'Em High and we TR'd it then, I got the first lead the following season.
Marcsoltan - May 26, 2009 6:35 pm - Hasn't voted
ThanksThank you for all the info Kris. I will change the name of the one I had missed. Invisible Touch does sound more like Herb than Disappearing Finger.
All the best,
Marc
ksolem - May 27, 2009 2:15 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: ThanksMarc - Here's an obscurity for you. Climb Bendix Claws 'till you're just above the crux, about half way up, do a difficult traverse left and finish up the left hand crack. I did it around X-mas one of those years with Jan (Herb was probably there too..) We called it Santa Claws, but figured it had to be done previously, at least as a TR..
Marcsoltan - May 27, 2009 6:37 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: ThanksThanks Kris, I added this bit of history to the "Additions" part of my page.
ksolem - May 29, 2009 1:17 pm - Voted 10/10
natural lines...The cool thing about Future Games Rock is that every route follows a natural line. Even the nearly featureless slab of Games Without Frontiers follows a direct line of weakness to the thin seams which then take one to the top.
Marcsoltan - May 29, 2009 8:42 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: natural lines...More words of wisdom from you, Kris. I have a confession to make. One time I tried to top rope, or at least try to get on, Games W/O Frontiers. I had a hard time even sticking to any of the holds, never mind making a move.
I will attach your comment about "Natural Lines" to the page.