Congratulations on your successful summit! You don't strike me as someone who follows the advice of others, but please pay attention to what other more experienced climbers tell you. You called this a "hike", but Mt. Hood is a deceptively dangerous climb. Many Mt. Hood climbers are injured or killed by falling rock and ice. Did you even wear a helmet? Even years of experience and 50 or more summits of Hood can't keep climbers from dying on this mountain. Portland Mountain Rescue, Crag Rats, and several other search-and-rescue units are called to Mt. Hood each year to risk their lives searching for and bringing out morons like you who are unprepared and have no business being on the mountain.
Diesel: My initial response to your trip report was done almost in a state of shock after reading the report and my hasty choice of language may have started things off on the wrong foot. I apologize for that. I was reacting to someone blatantly disregarding well-meaning advice and offers of assistance from more experienced climbers in order to put his life on the line. If you had hurt yourself because you could not self-arrest on a steep slope or if you had wandered off in a whiteout and become lost in Zigzag Canyon, your actions would affect many more than just yourself. A search-and-rescue operation would involve many people you have never met and public agencies would be footing the bills.
As you noted, people have died on the mountain even though they were carrying the proper equipment. What you don't know is how many people are still alive because they were using a helmet, ice axe, or (real) crampons. I have personally seen lives saved by each of these (although since I have not posted any climbs on this website, I probably can't be trusted.) Mt. Hood, even by the easiest, south side route is a dangerous climb, regardless of your mistakenly labeling it as a "hike". You are correct in that the south side route is not particularly difficult, but that is only when things go well. Starting the climb in daylight and with limited equipment was stacking the odds against you.
To anyone considering climbing Mt. Hood by the standard south side, it should be clear from the responses to this trip report that climbing this mountain is not to be taken lightly. I recommend reading the post on this website describing the Mt. Hood's standard route. (Search for "south-side-hogsback/155408.") As the author states in that description, ice axe, crampons, and helmet are essential equipment. That's just the beginning: A map and compass should also be carried on this mountain as well as common sense and basic mountaineering skills like self-arrest and navigation.
Diesel, I hope you continue to post your "hikes". Having you thumb your nose to others offering to help you, denigrating serious climbers by pooh-poohing their climbs as "hikes", and refusing to use actual terms ("pick" or "peak" instead of "axe") is entertaining, although potentially misleading to novices. As long as readers take your reports with a grain of salt, we'll continue to have fun.
This is a good example of what not to do.
You risked your life without the proper tools and equipment which endangered not only yourself but others, and even refused the assistance of others out of what appears to be convenience. An Ice Axe and Crampons are essential, and a helmet also strongly advised because of the falling rock danger.
It is also highly recommended that one start climbing much earlier in the day, before dawn, contrary to your recommendation.
I will not congratulate you on this summit as you had no business being up there. You left too late, lacked the necessary equipment and should have turned around upon recognizing your death was almost assured should you slip.
My words are harsh because what you did was irresponsible and reckless. I hope that you are able to learn from this experience and invest a little money and training into your safety and that of others.
"Greetings TrueScotsman, It is a bit funny the way you worded your statement: "you risked your life without the proper tools and equipment." In other words, it is ok to risk your like if you have the right equipment."
It is about managing the inherent risks of the mountains by being prepared, you can't completely eliminate the risks. So your point is rather ridiculous.
"As I indicated to another person that was eager to provide me with the hate mail, I did my research seriously before hiking Mount Hood."
Hate mail? It's called stern correction, which is clear that you needed. I hardly doubt that you did sufficient research as is evidenced by the fact that you didn't have the necessary tools. Something you admitted to in your TR.
"People don't die on Mount Hood due to lack of equipment. They die of other factors as not being physically fit or not being careful."
Absolutely ignorant.. people die or get seriously injured by not having the proper equipment on any mountain, including Mount Hood. Not having an Ice Axe to self-arrest your fall on a steep slope that leads to a terrain hazard is absurd. Simply indefensible. Everyone makes mistakes eventually, which is why you bring those tools.
"You pointed out crampons; I had crampon. Not the big blades, but still I had crampons that actually worked out perfectly. In truth, the folks that had the big crampons had difficulty on the Old Chute since the ice was so firm that the hikers could not cut into it anyway."
Micro spikes are not crampons. lol
"As far as putting my life in danger; there is a danger in absolutely anything we do. One day I biked casually on the sidewalk and a lady driver decided to drive right into me. There are no actions we take that are free of danger."
That doesn't mean we go looking for it, while possibly putting other people in harms way. We MITIGATE the risk, by being PREPARED and experienced. When riding a bike we mitigate risk by being vigilant, obey the laws, and wearing a helmet. The same principles apply in climbing.
"Nobody has "business" of being on the top of a mountain. It is a different kind of fun and a different kind of risk that certain people like to experience. In addition, I did not put anyone's life in danger as you accused wrongly."
If you would have slipped, you would have had no way of stopping yourself, which means you could have taken out anyone below you. That applies for going up and going down. Also, you would have made other people responsible for hauling you out of the fumarole should you have fallen in. Just because you get lucky and don't end up hurting anyone doesn't mean you won't next time.
I enjoy climbing myself and go out and do it nearly every week, but I am extremely careful and do everything I can to mitigate risk.
"As far as a starting time, you have your point of view and I have mine. In this particular case, I started at almost 6AM. I finished the hike before absolutely everybody that started the hike before me. What is the point of hiking in the dark? One cannot see any scenery, if there are dangers, they are hard to spot ahead of way, and one is tired from lack of rest."
You've never heard of an Alpine start? Tell me, what does snow do as it gets sunnier on a clear day? It softens and melts. There are rocks that become dislodged and can hurt or kill you if struck and you mitigate that risk by starting extra early.
Oh.. but you did your research!
"I lack experience hiking on ice but I made up being responsible of my moves and thinking about every move I had to take. I find your unkind tone gratuitous and unnecessary. Your big brother attitude resembles bullying. So long, Diesel"
Your arrogance was clear from your post, and has been further demonstrated by your response. You admit that you lack experience, but then go on to defend every stupid thing you did. How does one learn if they don't accept correction?
I hope you don't die up there, and surely don't hope you end up hurting someone else.
I will end the bickering contest here. Your your unnecessary offensive speech is not necessary. Also, your critical position to my hike is futile at this point. Maybe after you hike Mt Hood and post a trip report we can talk from the same level.
It's not a hike. lol
Your arrogance is truly astonishing. I'm glad you live in Ohio so you can't frequent volcanoes that you clearly don't respect. The second someone calls climbing Mt. Hood a "hike" indicates to me ignorance and lack of understanding. I didn't appreciate how you continued to make light of, even mock others who were trying to help you be safe. I also read your post about Mt. St. Helens and I'm surprised you are still alive after these two climbs. Climbing Mt. Hood requires respect and an education/experience that you don't seem to bother with. Your actions were selfish and reckless and there is a reason that others are trying to inform you of your poor decision making.
The reason people climb at night is because the snow is most firm and rock fall/ice fall danger is lower than when the sun is up. Saying that crampons with bigger teeth don't bite snow well when it's firm makes no sense. Mt. Hood is a technical climb because it requires technical gear such as crampons, axe, harness with partners, helmet.. South Sister in summer could be considered a hike. If you continue to climb in such a reckless fashion I'm afraid that you will pay the consequences or worse, someone else will.
It is disheartening and sad to see you are so hateful of someone disagreeing with you. I can read between the lines that you would be very happy if something bad would happen to me just to prove your point. That is despicable. If you don't like my trip report, just zoom by. I didn't intend for you to read it.
If you have a hard time hiking, don't take it on me. There are lot's of pictures online with folks who hiked Mount Hood in snickers, even regular walking shoes. There is also the famos story of a girl who hiked Mount Hood in high hills. Now, form that, to calling Mount Hood a difficult climb, it's a bit of a stretch. How would you call going up a 14ner in Colorado or Sierra Nevada? Let's be serious. Mount Hood is a mere 3 miles to the top. It took me 4:45 hours because I stopped and talked to everyone I meet going up. Let's not make it a big deal. Just because you are scared hiking such mountains it doesn't mean everybody is. On the Old Chute, with all the ice and concern I had, it took me 15 minutes to go up. It took me10 minutes to go down. I had no "technical gear" so that proves my point that people can go up an down in a casual fashion, just like the pictures show.
You take care of yourself and do not impose on others.
You clearly don't care to listen to people trying to help educate you on what it means to climb safely. From reading your other responses on here, I'm disappointed to see that you are unwilling to listen to those with a respect and understanding of what it means to climb not "hike" Mt. Hood. Understand that I don't doubt that you are physically fit. However, just because you are in shape doesn't mean that Mt. Hood is not a technical climb.
What would I call a 14er in Colorado or the Sierra Nevadas? It depends on what mountain and the route you take. Give me an example of a specific Mountain and I'd be glad to help.
You straight up lied about your time spent on the Old Chute. It takes longer than 15min to climb the final 500ft to the top and more than 10min going down. Don't be ridiculous!
Out of the 10,000 that attempt Hood each year, the percentage of those attempting the mountain with tennis shoes or high heels is a tiny fraction compared to those who have the proper equipment.
Your arrogant attitude persists which is unfortunate because there are many here that are willing to help educate you if you would only listen.
I have no intention of misleading people. The Chute was timed going up and down. I don't care what you make of my trip report and I don't care how you rate Hood. To me it was a medium to difficult hike at best. And that is only due to the block of ice on the Chute.
Listening to others? I would gladly but none of the critics have a trip report on Mt Hood. None. The only legit person here is Brian C. You have a few walks in the park and the others have nothing. Check it out for yourself. How is it fair to tell others how to do things that you didn't do?
Some of us don't go tell the world when we climb, looking for glory...
TR's are useful, and this one is great for telling people what not to do.
Also, judging the comments based on their source is a genetic fallacy. An utter failure in logic.
How convenient for you to hike and not tell. Comes very handy today. At least my report, as you incorrectly points out, gives a good account of my hike. That is all it is in the end: a trip report. You don't have to be all upset for I don't see Mt Hood a very difficult hike. That's my opinion and we don't have to agree. But we agree on me hiking it and you didn't.
Thousands of people climb it without telling. Remember I'm not the one bragging about my accomplishments.
It's not the difficulty of the hike, but the dangers that come with it and the technical tools highly suggested for those who climb this mountain. It is basically a walk up, but that only makes it more likely for people with less experience to try to reach the top. I've heard plenty of stories of guys falling on Mount Hood, and having to be extracted from the fumaroles.
I also went and read your Mt. St. Helens TR and that was a laugh too. You're simply asking for it. Could have fallen off a Cornice.
I do respect any valid and valuable advice, especially when I ask for it.
I feel the criticism was gratuitous since I did not see any part of the hike out of my limits. I din't have an ice peak. Too bad. I made it without. Was that bad? How many marathon runners finish the race with one shoe? How many skiers finish the race on one ski? Etc.
I have abandoned hikes due to weather conditions before. I think I know when it's too much risk and turning around it's the best option. I do not see summiting mountains as accomplishments. Millions of folks do it. I see it as great, unnecessary achievement. It's just fun to be outside.
I just din't realize when I signed up with Summit Post that there were so many patronizing people out there.
How many marathon runners start with one shoe, or how many skiers start the race with one ski? How was your point logical?
There are hazards on sunny days too, such as ice/rock fall that gets more dangerous throughout the day.
I just find it astonishing that you would come up here and brag about what you did, and then not expect this response. If you want to learn how to be safer next time then there are plenty of people who would want to help, but you simply come across as some thrill seeking kid who is going to hurt someone.
I would have loved to have said, "good report," but your errors needed to be pointed out.
Did you just sign up Summit Post on 6/20 just to reply to my hike? You go ahead and enjoy your walks and call them climbs. I'm done here. It took me less time to hike the mountain than talking about the darn hike.
You are entirety incorrect but you make stuff up just because you want to be right. The most dangerous mountain in the USA is Mt McKinley. In the lower 48 is Mt Washington in NH, mountain that I also hiked. I don't have a TR on it since I hiked it before I signed up with Summit Post.
The most dangerous volcano to climb in the US is Mt Rainier. Maybe your Mt Hood is the most dangerous in OR, but that's a small claim to fame.
Mt Hood looks more dangerous from afar than it actually is. I know because I hiked it. Along with hundreds of people in snickers, walking shoes or high hills.
Just let natural selection run it's course, there is no getting through his thick cranium with logic or common sense.
Also, more have died on Mount Hood than any other mountain in the USA. While it doesn't have the highest death rate, it has the highest death count.
There is no denying it is a dangerous mountain for anyone, especially those who carelessly attempt to climb it.
Keep correcting yourself and you'll be right eventually. Do a little research online and you will see the true statistics about the mountain that you have serious trouble hiking. One thing is clear: I hiked Mt Hood with no gear, no axe, no partner. That means it's not a big deal.