the ugly cousin is easy :)
"Myster Z is an ugly cousin to the much more popular and easy Red Rocks routes Geronimo and Olive Oil."
Will use this next time we get a chance to go to Brownstone wall. Great info Dow.
I am here as I type Radek..."There and Back Again"....not so good mate...mark that one off...great weather though, north facing whatever one wants to do...cheers