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MoapaPk - Sep 12, 2009 6:09 pm - Voted 10/10


I don't know a thing about this area, but thanks for providing such detail and informative route pictures.


Jurgen - Sep 13, 2009 3:09 pm - Hasn't voted

Re: thanks

You're welcome, that is what's summitpost is all about isn't? Cheers, Jurgen


kamil - Sep 19, 2009 4:25 pm - Voted 10/10

shame about bolts

Another good description from you and congrats on the climb.
Shame about bolting the route, I can see from the pics there are perfect cracks for trad pro, you're right that must've lost that adventure feeling about it :(


Jurgen - Sep 20, 2009 2:54 pm - Hasn't voted

Re: shame about bolts

Thanks Kamil! There's enough place to put your own gear as you've noticed, so the overdone it. Re-bolting is oke, but only limited. For instance the belays.

Groet, Jurgen


Bart - Nov 3, 2009 8:31 am - Voted 10/10


Whatever one thinks about the bolting of this route, it might be useful to know that while the Schweizplaisir guidebook recommends you take only 1 cam, this will result in very unpleasant surprises for those expecting a 'gut' equipped route as the book indicates. Yes there are some bolts, but with only 1 cam as added pro you are looking at (very) long runouts on virtually every pitch. Take about 4 and you should be able to comfortably protect the route up to 'gut' standards. As others have noted, the granite is excellent and there are many opportunities for placing gear. Enjoy.


Jurgen - Nov 5, 2009 4:30 am - Hasn't voted

Re: Bolts

Isn't the number '1' in the Schweizplaisir guidebooks for the size, instead of the amounth?

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