Yep, the Nose. The reason why I did not want to hire YMS is because they do not let you lead and a large sum of the payment goes to Delaware North for doing pretty much no work. Then yes the price is part of the reason. Its not worth it to pay some 3500 to jug 2/3rds a mile of rope. If I am going to pay that much I want to actually climb the thing, not ascend a rope next to it. There are other guides who charge less and actually allow you to climb the thing instead of jug the whole thing which is why I am not interested in them.divnamite wrote:I guess YMS charges too much money? Mark, which route are you doing on el cap? I assume the Nose?