You're right.

I was in shock in 2016. I voted, but I think a lot of my fellow snowflakes did not vote thinking that Hillary was a shoe-in. Shame on them! I hope a lesson was learned, but, given my experience with human nature, I doubt it.

I'm curious, Mr Sunny Buns. Why do you think Trump is such a good president. As a mountaineer, hiker, etc. I hate the thought of giving up hard earned public lands to the rich industrialists. I also hate the idea of abandoning regulations that protect the environment so rich industrialist can make more of a profit than the already do. Are you rich? Do you benefit somehow from Trump's attempted anti-environmental policies? What is your angle on all this? I'm asking respectfully and without the usual name-calling that permeates this board.

Just so you know, I work hard for a living in an area that is strongly affected by very high inflation. I'm a homeowner with a family and Trump has not helped my life situation in even the slightest. Has he helped you?

boyblue,

Don't bother. There isn't an intelligent response to be had from those sorry folks who still support Trump. It's not even about Trump any more. It's just anti-anything Democrat. That's the only metric for success: not if it's good for them but whether the other side is angry. That's the greatest harm that Trump had done to this country, lowering the expectations of so many of what they expect from their president.

Ok, I'll bite.

1. You think Nazi Germany was socialist, don't you? Nope, Hitler gassed a million socialists--he hated them almost as much as you do.
2. Norway. Sweden. Netherlands. Canada. Japan. Visit them sometime.
3. Most illegal immigrants pay taxes but get no benefits. And they do jobs you won't do.
4. A lot of these people were our allies, who worked with us in Iraq and Afghanistan. No one in their right mind would help us now, though.
5. We forget what worker safety and pollution were like before we had those regs. But you could visit China and find out.
6. You, sir, are a future freeloader. When something happens to you, you will not be able to pay. The hospital will treat you anyway, and will pass on the hundreds of thousands in costs to the rest of us through higher prices. Our system is crazy that way. If you can figure a way for responsible, insured people like me to let uninsured people like you die in a pool of blood and vomit with no treatment then sure, I'm with you.
7. No, we don't care a whole lot about your guns. You mostly use them to shoot yourselves.
8. That completes the circle of disagreement--I'm actually in favor of drilling in northwest ANWR.

5. Nothing false about it. Regs drive me crazy and they constantly need to be trimmed, but it was way worse before they came along, and the ones the Trumpistas are attacking are the very ones that did so much to clean the US up.
6. You can pretty much do catastrophic with our current system if you go for a high deductible plan. Trouble is, if these cover anything real, they are still expensive. The cheap plans Republicans want to sell out of Mississippi will sound good, but leave you uncovered. Sort of like ADD life insurance.
7. Ha ha, yes you do. The majority of gun deaths in US are suicides, by a pretty hefty margin. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/upshot/gun-deaths-are-mostly-suicides.html.
8. Oil wealth is what has made environmental protection possible in Alaska. If we didn't have it, some awful stuff would have been done to get money in other ways. The real environmental harm from oil development on the slope was building the pipeline, and that is already done, so we might as well get all the oil at the other end rather than open up some other area. The footprint of development in ANWR would be tiny, nothing like Prudhoe, because regulations have forced such huge advances in technology since Prudhoe was developed. As a wilderness area, the entire mountainous portion of ANWR, and most of the coast as well, will be just as cool as it is now.

Hello folks, I checked the respones and see this turned into a political discussion. I only raised this issue to make sure that we would still have full access to Summitpost, and to make sure that all our hard work over the years will be able to be shared as easily as it always has been. I love this site, and appreciate the hard work that has gone into keeping it going all these years. We've built an amazing database that continues to inspire me to find new places to venture or to share.

This thread is about the site - Summitpost. I am not making a political statement. I was just making sure that the site is prepared for any changes that may come as a result of the change in law.

Any guidance on that is appreciated.

-Daniel (hgrapid)

hgrapid wrote: I was just making sure that the site is prepared for any changes that may come as a result of the change in law.

-Daniel (hgrapid)

At least as I understand it, this should not affect individual sites like Summitpost much. The real affect will be on content providers which regularly transmit large amounts of information (like Netflix). If you have an individual site or visit one like Summitpost, you shouldn't see a significant difference.

The changes also may take quite a while to implement, since lawsuits have already been filed, some by states, and will likely be joined by others.

So, in conclusion, don't worry just yet and see how this all plays out after the dust settles from the wrangling.

Sunny Buns wrote: The reason it is so expensive is because it is a welfare payment to cover those who must be subsidized, and because it covers things that are not medical care. That was the only reason Ocare was passed.

Like Paul Ryan, you apparently don't understand how insurance works. Health insurance is a pooled cost where everyone is expected to pay toward costs of others in the same pool. I pay $2,400/month for insurance for my family, even though we rarely go to the doctor or need care. I'm really paying for the fat, diabetic , opioid user who doesn't exercise and eats every meal at Burger King. Clearly that's an overgeneralization. However, health insurance is expensive for that reason, because health care itself is incredibly expensive and often not even tied to any fixed cost when charged. The health care industry has been unable to state what it actually costs them, for example, if someone comes in for an emergency room visit. They know what the meds administered cost (though those are artificially high since the Republicans have failed to address that issue, even prevented Medicare from negotiating with drug companies over the price of medicine), but cannot compute an actual out of pocket cost.

I find it ridiculous when folks like you complain bitterly about Obamacare but fail to recognize that it is the failure of the insurance and health care industry to regulate their costs that prompted it in the first place.

Crazy how this tread about helping the site became politically polarized. Next summer when we are on the mountains we'll be like:
"How long to the summit?"
"Are you red or blue?'
"Red."
"I'm not telling you nothing. I hope you don't make it."
Then you wonder whatever happened with the good old mountain camaraderie and people barely mumble back when you say hello. We make politics, politics doesn't make us. Or at least it should not.

Diesel wrote:Crazy how this tread about helping the site became politically polarized. Next summer when we are on the mountains we'll be like:
"How long to the summit?"
"Are you red or blue?'
"Red."
"I'm not telling you nothing. I hope you don't make it."
Then you wonder whatever happened with the good old mountain camaraderie and people barely mumble back when you say hello. We make politics, politics doesn't make us. Or at least it should not.

That's funny, Diesel! You just described the atmosphere @ my Christmas dinner. I like the dark meat. --

(And WHY do you keep knocking Burger King, fatdad ???)

Guys, please keep the political debates in the off route section. The original question is a valid one pertaining to Summitpost.