by Denjem » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:51 pm
by Roots » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:10 pm
by DanTheMan » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:20 pm
by mrchad9 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:27 pm
by The Chief » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:24 am
by Marmaduke » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:05 am
by DukeJH » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:12 am
by The Chief » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:18 am
Marmaduke wrote:Interesting, Chad posts that he looks at weight and Dow (who is extremely experienced at climbing gives a thanks to Chad's post. Then The Chief follows with his post that basically says the weight is meaningless. And The Chief is extemely worthy of listening to his opinion as well. So what does that tell ya'?
by Marmaduke » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:26 am
The Chief wrote:Marmaduke wrote:Interesting, Chad posts that he looks at weight and Dow (who is extremely experienced at climbing gives a thanks to Chad's post. Then The Chief follows with his post that basically says the weight is meaningless. And The Chief is extemely worthy of listening to his opinion as well. So what does that tell ya'?
It tells me that it all depends on what the discipline is that one is shopping for.
Lightweight Spring-Fall backpacking, weekend summer warm weather peak bagging, full on Winter Alpine climbs, Big Wall adventures, full on High Alt Big Mountain Expeditions. Each one necessitates a whole different type look at gear and it's ability to withstand the elements and environment in which one will encounter.
Again, IMO, this is should not be a fashion/gear "how light can I go" show. Rather, is the gear gonna work and do it's job to keep me comfortable and alive for the challenge I am planning to undertake.
by The Chief » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:55 am
by Marmaduke » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:19 am
The Chief wrote:Depends on the load (size) you expect to take and what kind of climbing.
Shouldn't be more than pound at the most as there are many "lightweight" pack materials out there now that can handle some real hard abuse.
Vaude Rock 55 (3.9 lbs) and Vaude Astra Light 60 (4.1lbs) are my packs of choice for all my alpine/ice climbing and guiding gigs.
Cilo Gear has some nice lightweight (same as the Vaude packs I use) tough stuff as well but is a bit too pricey for me.
by mrchad9 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:47 am
The Chief wrote:Depends on the load (size) you expect to take and what kind of climbing.
Shouldn't be more than pound at the most as there are many "lightweight" pack materials out there now that can handle some real hard abuse.
Vaude Rock 55 (3.9 lbs) and Vaude Astra Light 60 (4.1lbs) are my packs of choice for all my alpine/ice climbing and guiding gigs.
Cilo Gear has some nice lightweight (same as the Vaude packs I use) tough stuff as well but is a bit too pricey for me.
by The Chief » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:01 am
mrchad9 wrote:Looks like you consider weight as much as I do, in spite of your previous post.
by mrchad9 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:23 am
The Chief wrote:mrchad9 wrote:Looks like you consider weight as much as I do, in spite of your previous post.
Ah... no.
It is a generic term these days. Lightweight meaning compact/simple in design and not, weight. 3.9 to 4.1 pounds for a 55-60 litre pack is not light by any means considering what "Superlight" gear is out there these days.
by Luc » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:53 pm
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