To Eric,
I didn't but just the other day I read that as far as the genetic make-up is concerned the Britons have more in common with the Basques than with the Germanic peoples.
That's interesting - at least to some, like myself :) - but none of this is/can be proved. And letter combinations are countless and lots of them look like lots of the others. I used to think the Sto?y (pasture in W Tatras) just meant "tables" but there are holes in the mtn under the meadow plus written evidence of mining activity, so the name seems to be a deformed "sztolnia" (PL for "mining shaft") but if one doesn't know that but knows some words of the other Carpathian languages, he can come to think the name is Romanian ("stol" = flock of sheep).
Sure, but having "Gora" and "Reka"/"Ereka" for both is a bit puzzling, isn't it ? If "mountain" was "Rendorseg" in Basque I would say OK, but ...:) From this to conclude the Basques were polish nomades established long ago, I'd say it's too much (however both races are extremely stubborn :). But we can reasonnably conclude these pre-latin languages had probably a bit of common stuff. Having lived in Scotland during one year and hiked mountains whose gaelic names and meaning I still remember by heart, sometimes I also feel that there are some kind of similarities with slavic languages too.
There are several further examples. What comes to mind right now: Gura Fântâna (old name of Complex Turistic Borsa) and Gura Lalei in M. Rodnei, Gura Bucurei and Gura Apei in Retezat.
"Gura" in a place-name (and in everyday Romanian) may mean "mouth" or "throat" (cognate of French "gueule") - Gura Humorului for example is at the mouth of the river Humor.
Interesting that your two examples of Romanian words - magura and brunze - do not seem to be of Latin origin (no cognates in French, Spanish, etc.). I'd have thought the Romanians borrowed them from Slavs, not vice versa. Though they could be Dacian for all I know.
Thanks, you've actually restored the comment Mihai (who is a Romanian climber living in France) made a few years ago.
'Magura' and 'brânză' are definitely not Latin, the former is said to be an altered Slavic word that means 'burial mound'. The Vlachs borrowed the words south of the Carpathians and spread them north as far as the Northwestern Carpathians. Dacian? No chance, when the Romanians (then called Vlachs) crossed the Danube, Dacians were long gone.
yatsek - Feb 3, 2010 10:11 am - Hasn't voted
Re:To Eric,
I didn't but just the other day I read that as far as the genetic make-up is concerned the Britons have more in common with the Basques than with the Germanic peoples.
yatsek - Feb 3, 2010 10:17 am - Hasn't voted
Re:To Peter,
I was, and sorted it out within a few seconds :) by clicking one of the links in the Online Dictionaries chapter.:D
visentin - Feb 3, 2010 10:55 am - Voted 5/10
Re:http://www.laschools.net/146120827151657640/blank/browse.asp?A=383&BMDRN=2000&BCOB=0&C=54843
yatsek - Feb 3, 2010 1:51 pm - Hasn't voted
Re:That's interesting - at least to some, like myself :) - but none of this is/can be proved. And letter combinations are countless and lots of them look like lots of the others. I used to think the Sto?y (pasture in W Tatras) just meant "tables" but there are holes in the mtn under the meadow plus written evidence of mining activity, so the name seems to be a deformed "sztolnia" (PL for "mining shaft") but if one doesn't know that but knows some words of the other Carpathian languages, he can come to think the name is Romanian ("stol" = flock of sheep).
visentin - Feb 3, 2010 3:19 pm - Voted 5/10
Re:Sure, but having "Gora" and "Reka"/"Ereka" for both is a bit puzzling, isn't it ? If "mountain" was "Rendorseg" in Basque I would say OK, but ...:) From this to conclude the Basques were polish nomades established long ago, I'd say it's too much (however both races are extremely stubborn :). But we can reasonnably conclude these pre-latin languages had probably a bit of common stuff. Having lived in Scotland during one year and hiked mountains whose gaelic names and meaning I still remember by heart, sometimes I also feel that there are some kind of similarities with slavic languages too.
yatsek - Feb 3, 2010 4:59 pm - Hasn't voted
Re:Something about the Basques and the non-Carpathian myths, namely about the genetic make-up of the UK and Ireland.
yatsek - Feb 6, 2010 3:44 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: guraI hope "magura" does mean "hill/hills/mtn". BTW What does "Gura" mean as part of the name of a village/town, such as Gura Humorului ?
yatsek - Feb 6, 2010 5:46 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Gura HumoruluiThanks Mihai! I knew a bit about the Magura Codlei but couldn't understand that "gura" for place names at all.
peterbud - Feb 8, 2010 6:04 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: Gura HumoruluiThere are several further examples. What comes to mind right now: Gura Fântâna (old name of Complex Turistic Borsa) and Gura Lalei in M. Rodnei, Gura Bucurei and Gura Apei in Retezat.
nartreb - Aug 24, 2016 3:59 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: gura"Gura" in a place-name (and in everyday Romanian) may mean "mouth" or "throat" (cognate of French "gueule") - Gura Humorului for example is at the mouth of the river Humor.
Interesting that your two examples of Romanian words - magura and brunze - do not seem to be of Latin origin (no cognates in French, Spanish, etc.). I'd have thought the Romanians borrowed them from Slavs, not vice versa. Though they could be Dacian for all I know.
yatsek - Aug 27, 2016 6:55 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: guraThanks, you've actually restored the comment Mihai (who is a Romanian climber living in France) made a few years ago.
'Magura' and 'brânză' are definitely not Latin, the former is said to be an altered Slavic word that means 'burial mound'. The Vlachs borrowed the words south of the Carpathians and spread them north as far as the Northwestern Carpathians. Dacian? No chance, when the Romanians (then called Vlachs) crossed the Danube, Dacians were long gone.
Liba Kopeckova - Feb 5, 2010 10:41 am - Voted 10/10
wow...what an amazing page...
I hope that Americans will be able to understand it, he?
yatsek - Feb 5, 2010 11:01 am - Hasn't voted
Re: wow...Done with great polish, hah? I've even managed to find some Moravian/Czech non-polka highlander tune although it seems much less fast than you are! :)
ArankaP - Jun 3, 2010 8:19 am - Voted 10/10
This should be a website by itselfAmazing work! I don't think I'm even competent enough to judge it! Thank you!
yatsek - Jun 6, 2010 7:29 am - Hasn't voted
Diky Aranko!I'm really happy people of different nationalities like this page. And I hope you visit the Carpathians again one day.
Jacek
Porto - Nov 2, 2010 10:40 am - Hasn't voted
Ukrainian Carpathianshi! I'd like to suggest a web-site about Ukrainian Carpathians http://green-ukraine.com/en How can I submit this site?
thanx