Hmmmmm, I wouldn't really call it a logistical center - as it's not really a place to prepare for a trip, basecamp, that sort of thing. I don't talk about where you "can sleep, shower, and buy food" as most people won't do this here. It's a major canyon, separating two mountain ranges. The main canyon, because it has a major freeway going through it, probably doesn't call to most people here "explore me". But the side canyons and the bordering high mountains are definitely worth your while.
I understood logistical centers on SP to be sort of basecamps for jumping off into other areas. For example, Yosemite Valley is the logistical center for jumping off into Tenaya Canyon or Little Yosemite Valley or whatever. Maybe I misunderstood...
Logistical centers are for talking about the services provided to hikers/climbers. Literally "Where to sleep, where to shower, where to buy food, etc." Yosemite Valley offers a ton of services and houses thousands of people, some for weeks at a time - so it makes sense to have it as a logistical center. Not so much in Cajon Pass. I mean, there are a couple of businesses but I personally don't even stop in them because they are so busy, catering to the freeway crowd. In addition, I don't think most of us would stop there unless it was necessary, preferring to eat and stay at more appealing establishments, either in nearby Victorville or Rancho Cucamonga. (Now I could see those two places having logistical center pages created for them, especially Rancho because of having REI, Bass Pro Shop, etc). I could do one paragraph on the gas stations in Cajon Pass, one paragraph on the McDonalds, and one on the Best Western there but that wouldn't be much of a page and I wouldn't have much to say. It's obvious there are these businesses are there, and I don't think there's a huge value describing them here. I think the attraction of Cajon Pass is what I wrote about, and that it is a large canyon between two major mountain ranges, and because it's been a major thoroughfare for centuries there is much to explore and discover if you trod off the beaten path a little.
I agree with your page given that it is a geographical and historical important area in Southern California. I would just consider naming the page "Cajon Canyon" because it's the "canyon" that separates the San Gabriels from the San Bernardinos. The "pass" itself is just the highpoint where you cross from Cajon Canyon into the Mojave.
I guess it really does not matter. I just thought that many people would interpret a "pass" as a more discrete way over a mountain range and not necessarily as a canyon per se. I saw the label "Cajon Summit" on the maps, too.
Having grown up in the Redlands/San Bernardino area and consequently only knowing the area as "Cajon Pass", your page brought into focus that it is after all a big canyon.
Bubba Suess - Mar 18, 2010 10:33 am - Hasn't voted
Not sure here...Given the thrust of your page, wouldn't it work better as a logistical center page? Sort of a jumping off point for trips of different kinds?
tarol - Mar 19, 2010 10:29 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Not sure here...Hmmmmm, I wouldn't really call it a logistical center - as it's not really a place to prepare for a trip, basecamp, that sort of thing. I don't talk about where you "can sleep, shower, and buy food" as most people won't do this here. It's a major canyon, separating two mountain ranges. The main canyon, because it has a major freeway going through it, probably doesn't call to most people here "explore me". But the side canyons and the bordering high mountains are definitely worth your while.
Bubba Suess - Mar 19, 2010 1:04 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Not sure here...I understood logistical centers on SP to be sort of basecamps for jumping off into other areas. For example, Yosemite Valley is the logistical center for jumping off into Tenaya Canyon or Little Yosemite Valley or whatever. Maybe I misunderstood...
tarol - Mar 21, 2010 9:41 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Not sure here...Logistical centers are for talking about the services provided to hikers/climbers. Literally "Where to sleep, where to shower, where to buy food, etc." Yosemite Valley offers a ton of services and houses thousands of people, some for weeks at a time - so it makes sense to have it as a logistical center. Not so much in Cajon Pass. I mean, there are a couple of businesses but I personally don't even stop in them because they are so busy, catering to the freeway crowd. In addition, I don't think most of us would stop there unless it was necessary, preferring to eat and stay at more appealing establishments, either in nearby Victorville or Rancho Cucamonga. (Now I could see those two places having logistical center pages created for them, especially Rancho because of having REI, Bass Pro Shop, etc). I could do one paragraph on the gas stations in Cajon Pass, one paragraph on the McDonalds, and one on the Best Western there but that wouldn't be much of a page and I wouldn't have much to say. It's obvious there are these businesses are there, and I don't think there's a huge value describing them here. I think the attraction of Cajon Pass is what I wrote about, and that it is a large canyon between two major mountain ranges, and because it's been a major thoroughfare for centuries there is much to explore and discover if you trod off the beaten path a little.
SoCalHiker - Mar 24, 2010 12:14 pm - Voted 10/10
Cajon Canyon?I agree with your page given that it is a geographical and historical important area in Southern California. I would just consider naming the page "Cajon Canyon" because it's the "canyon" that separates the San Gabriels from the San Bernardinos. The "pass" itself is just the highpoint where you cross from Cajon Canyon into the Mojave.
SoCalHiker - Mar 24, 2010 5:28 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: Cajon Canyon?I guess it really does not matter. I just thought that many people would interpret a "pass" as a more discrete way over a mountain range and not necessarily as a canyon per se. I saw the label "Cajon Summit" on the maps, too.
Augie Medina - Mar 26, 2010 2:58 pm - Voted 10/10
Nice ContributionHaving grown up in the Redlands/San Bernardino area and consequently only knowing the area as "Cajon Pass", your page brought into focus that it is after all a big canyon.