Great start and a page much needed by SP (I believe it also fills out the Boulder Group).
I realize you're still working on it, but I have a couple suggestions. You dwell nicely on the climbing focus of Eldo and it's history. The State Park website is an okay resource, but climbingboulder.com is the resource that climbers use. Like SP, it's the be-all, end-all of climbing information in the area.
Finally, and most importantly, you need to tell us how to get to the top of Shirttail Peak. Seriously, this is something I've been wondering about for a while and is probably no widely known. IIRC, there's a third-class scramble to the summit, but that's all I know. Never actually been there myself as Eldo freaks me out in so many ways.
I've got some nice Eldo pictures linked at my Boulder Group page. I'll see if I can get them moved over.
Thanks for your vote and all your helpful suggestions. I believe I've made the changes you suggested. If you have any other corrections/additions or routes please don't hesitate.
Good edits. Thanks for adding the climbing route information. BTW, if you want to take up climbing, you're the perfect age for it. Young punks (technical term, not pejorative here) like you tend to take to climbing like ducks to water.
I'm still a little disturbed that you haven't actually climbed the peak itself. It's a good overview of Eldo (especially from a non-climber perspective) and perhaps it should be made clear that the main focus of the page is the canyon, not the peak. Yeah, it's Summitpost, but there are other non-peak climbing areas already on SP. No worries. There are non-technical routes up Shirttail, but I don't know what they are. I'll throw you a bone on the vote since the rest of the page is so good and you've made such progress on it.
Thanks for your nice vote. I changed the text in the Shirttail Peak overview section to hopefully reflect this emphasis on Eldorado Canyon as a climbing area. I plan on summitting Shirttail Peak one day soon, but as yet have not gotten the opportunity.
By the way I would LOVE nothing better to take up rock climbing and have simply not found anyone qualified to teach me. Also climbing gear is so expensive.
Glad to see this peak on SP! You did some great work on the text, but I, too, would like to see a route for this peak. I've heard there is a walkup (or at least a class 3 ascent), but I don't know much about it.
Thanks, for you nice vote. I have indeed not submitted the peak yet, but I have hiked in and around Eldorado Canyon often. I tried to emphasize the fact that the page was more about the canyon itself as a climbing area than the actual peak itself.
I'm breaking my rule about not voting on a page without a route. Hopefully this will encourage you to get one or two or three as time goes by. Your page is well written and the photos are good. Good suggestions from your SP peers below.
EastKing - Apr 30, 2005 2:16 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentNice page.
bigwilly - Apr 30, 2005 8:38 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThank you for your nice vote
CharlesD - Apr 30, 2005 10:32 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentGreat start and a page much needed by SP (I believe it also fills out the Boulder Group).
I realize you're still working on it, but I have a couple suggestions. You dwell nicely on the climbing focus of Eldo and it's history. The State Park website is an okay resource, but climbingboulder.com is the resource that climbers use. Like SP, it's the be-all, end-all of climbing information in the area.
You also might want to link to the NCAR weather page or the National Weather Service weather page.
Finally, and most importantly, you need to tell us how to get to the top of Shirttail Peak. Seriously, this is something I've been wondering about for a while and is probably no widely known. IIRC, there's a third-class scramble to the summit, but that's all I know. Never actually been there myself as Eldo freaks me out in so many ways.
I've got some nice Eldo pictures linked at my Boulder Group page. I'll see if I can get them moved over.
bigwilly - May 1, 2005 9:05 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks for your vote and all your helpful suggestions. I believe I've made the changes you suggested. If you have any other corrections/additions or routes please don't hesitate.
CharlesD - May 2, 2005 9:51 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentGood edits. Thanks for adding the climbing route information. BTW, if you want to take up climbing, you're the perfect age for it. Young punks (technical term, not pejorative here) like you tend to take to climbing like ducks to water.
I'm still a little disturbed that you haven't actually climbed the peak itself. It's a good overview of Eldo (especially from a non-climber perspective) and perhaps it should be made clear that the main focus of the page is the canyon, not the peak. Yeah, it's Summitpost, but there are other non-peak climbing areas already on SP. No worries. There are non-technical routes up Shirttail, but I don't know what they are. I'll throw you a bone on the vote since the rest of the page is so good and you've made such progress on it.
Good job and I look forward to more.
bigwilly - May 2, 2005 12:11 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks for your nice vote. I changed the text in the Shirttail Peak overview section to hopefully reflect this emphasis on Eldorado Canyon as a climbing area. I plan on summitting Shirttail Peak one day soon, but as yet have not gotten the opportunity.
By the way I would LOVE nothing better to take up rock climbing and have simply not found anyone qualified to teach me. Also climbing gear is so expensive.
CharlesD - May 2, 2005 5:40 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentFair enough. If the current spate of crappy weather at higher altitude continues, I might run over there and scramble about one of these days.
By the way, there is a "bigwally" who is pretty active on SP. I was mighty confused when you posted this page and claimed not to be a climber.
desainme - Apr 30, 2005 3:00 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentCool picture of the Bastille
bigwilly - May 1, 2005 9:07 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThank you for your nice vote. I'm glad like the picture.
nartreb - Apr 30, 2005 6:52 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentI have faith that the routes will come.
Jerry L - Apr 30, 2005 10:21 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentGood stuff.
bigwilly - May 1, 2005 9:20 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThank you for your kind vote.
bigwilly - May 1, 2005 9:20 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks for your nice vote.
bigwilly - May 2, 2005 11:50 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThank you for your kind vote.
RyanS - May 5, 2005 11:34 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentGlad to see this peak on SP! You did some great work on the text, but I, too, would like to see a route for this peak. I've heard there is a walkup (or at least a class 3 ascent), but I don't know much about it.
bigwilly - May 5, 2005 5:36 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks, for you nice vote. I have indeed not submitted the peak yet, but I have hiked in and around Eldorado Canyon often. I tried to emphasize the fact that the page was more about the canyon itself as a climbing area than the actual peak itself.
Aaron Johnson - May 9, 2005 9:54 am - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentI'm breaking my rule about not voting on a page without a route. Hopefully this will encourage you to get one or two or three as time goes by. Your page is well written and the photos are good. Good suggestions from your SP peers below.
bigwilly - May 9, 2005 12:54 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks for all your nice votes recently and all your help maintaining my pages.
Derek Franzen - May 9, 2005 10:48 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentVery nice page. Looks like you need to climb some of the routes and then give us a write-up of them!
bigwilly - May 10, 2005 7:43 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks for the nice vote. I'm getting out there as much as I can now and will summit soon.