Welcome to SP!  -

I am sorry that the climber is not transparent

 
[ Sizes: Orig | Large | Med | Small | Thumb ]
I am sorry that the climber is not transparent
My son was using his improvised via ferrata system with 2 slings and locking biners, but he was also on a short rope attached to rockclimber77. The short rope was beneficial on exposed sections of the trail without cables.

Due to the recent forum on "bad submission" I draw how was this system working, and I believe that it was safe.

Again, each climber was attached with 2 locking biners, and slings. There was about 20 to 30 cm redundancy between the climber and the cable, so the maximum fall was up to 30 cm (=1 foot).
When the climber reached the place where the cable attached to the rock, he unclipped one locking biner, moved it over the attachment and lock himself back to the cable on the other side. Then he moved the other carabiner otherwise he would get stuck. So, at no point, there was a potential for taking a fall on the red rope.

The purpose of the red rope was to short rope the weaker climber on exposed hiking sections. The route follows horizontally, and at many areas it is a hiking trail, exposed, but a hiking trail without cables. We did not take the rope off for this section because we would have to repeat this process 5-6-7x?

We had slings, not via ferrata system, which I believe in a horizontal nature of the trail is not as bad as if you are doing a vertical route. On a vertical via ferrata you can slide 2-3 metes on the cable until you get stopped on the attachment of the cable to the rock. On a horizontal via ferrata, you can take a swing, and you will take a swing whether you have a specific via ferrata set or 2 slings. I made sure that slings were not too long, not more than 20 to 30 cm redundancy depending on climbers position. Again, I am not recommending this set up. I never meant to write how to do this route, but since someone enjoyed twisting it and showing it as a complete incompetency, I am describing what we did.

The first climber was not at any point not attached to the cables. It is my son, and I was closely following what he was doing. Again, I wrote in an article "do not take children" - my son is nearly 18, and very adept in doing such a route.
I am feeling silly for describing this so much, but I am expecting that I will get attacked for this, or whatever i will write.

There was no way that anyone could take a 200 foot fall there in this situation - at least per me. And there is no way that we could break the cable by falling on it as one person wrote.

Frankly, it saddens me very much that the other photos show how my son is attached to the cable, it was explained below the picture, and someone just enjoys to manipulate it.

I was also attacked b/c I was not warning enough about rock fall. I did write down there is a climbing area below, I included the link to the album (the album is of my doing, and I have climbed there). Ok, so please if you are anywhere on the rock and there are climbers below you - do not throw rocks at them, do not kick rocks at them, or do not attempt in any other way to be sending anything on climbers below.

I am afraid to post stuff on line now - I realized that when I put up Maiden Voyage climb on SP, I did not mention not to throw rock on the climbing parties below. Shall I add it to every single pitch of the climb? just in case someone decides to read only a description of one pitch?

Comments


[ Post a Comment ]
Viewing: 1-10 of 10    

lucabertolloShoes...

lucabertollo

Voted 10/10

...strange shoes for climbing...aren't they ?
Very impressive path and beautiful pics !!
Luca
Posted Oct 11, 2011 4:34 am

Liba KopeckovaRe: Shoes...

Liba Kopeckova

Hasn't voted

Thanks Luca for visiting. We all had keens for this route - there were a long sections of walking between the climbing sections.
Posted Oct 11, 2011 9:31 am

TimBDuchess

TimB

Voted 10/10

must be leading, as I don't see her in this picture?
;)
Posted Oct 18, 2011 10:05 am

lcarreauRe: Duchess

lcarreau

Voted 10/10

Duchess had to recoup from a stiff neck caused
by looking up at her master.

She was probably at home on the Bark-a-lounger.
Posted Oct 18, 2011 10:10 pm

TimBRe: Duchess

TimB

Voted 10/10

Woof.
:D
Posted Oct 18, 2011 11:24 pm

Liba KopeckovaRe: Duchess

Liba Kopeckova

Hasn't voted

Thank you guys. Duchess stayed at home eating cheese and ham...
Posted Oct 19, 2011 10:23 am

phlipdascripteh interwebs

phlipdascrip

Voted 10/10

The internet gives everyone a voice, even the greatest pricks and idiots of all time - there will always be someone who gets off on bashing anything other people share, especially when a lot of effort has been put into it and they get jealous. Don't let them ruin your motivations.

Penny Arcade: Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory
Posted Oct 19, 2011 10:16 am

Liba KopeckovaRe: teh interwebs

Liba Kopeckova

Hasn't voted

thank you so much. I really appreciate your comment.
Posted Oct 19, 2011 10:22 am

MoapaPkgood on ya

MoapaPk

Voted 10/10

When this picture was posted on the thread, I didn't realize that it was taken out-of-context from a real article. Very professional, both behavior and writing!
Posted Oct 22, 2011 10:04 am

Liba KopeckovaRe: good on ya

Liba Kopeckova

Hasn't voted

Thank you. I was very upset about it. I never participate in forums, and could not believe what was going on there. There were images next to this one, showing that the red rope was not used for that part of the climb as well as the text below the image...but oh well, at least that is over. Thanks again.
Posted Oct 23, 2011 11:39 pm

Viewing: 1-10 of 10    




Rate This Image
Current Score: 85.36

Log In To Vote
Image Data
Liba KopeckovaSubmitted by Liba Kopeckova
on Oct 3, 2011 4:01 am

Image ID: 750845
Hits: 2546 
Object Title: I am sorry that the climber is not transparent