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NO! John Denver Peak: Why Mt. Sopris Should Stay Mt. Sopris

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Mt. Sopris Forever

Recently, there has been a highly publicized and controversial push to re-name the east summit of Mt. Sopris to John Denver Peak after the late Aspenite folk singer. While I don't know if I would call myself a fan of John Denver's music, I do enjoy many of his songs (as well as the Muppets Christmas, which I grew up on), and I appreciate what he has meant to the Roaring Fork Valley and to Colorado. Despite this, I am utterly opposed to the re-naming of Mt. Sopris's east summit on his behalf.

The reason for my opinion, and my subsequent rant, is that after living in Glenwood Springs for the better portion of my life Mt. Sopris has been a source of inspiration and admiration for me for many years. On a bad day, all I have to do is look up at Sopris's twin summits and I feel some relief. It is hard to explain to people who haven't lived in the lower Roaring Fork Valley what exactly Mt. Sopris means to us. MANY businesses have taken Mt. Sopris as their namesake. Even one of the local elementary schools is named Sopris Elementary. The eponymous Mt. Sopris is a totem and a treasure for us here in the Glenwood Springs and Carbondale area.

Mt. Sopris Looms
Mt. Sopris from between Carbondale and Glenwood
Sopris
Mt. Sopris


Sopris is a singular peak. When viewed from the north, Sopris is one of the largest and most prominent peaks in all of Colorado. The effect of re-naming this magical peak would be like splitting the mountain in half. No longer could you look up and see "ah, look at Mt. Sopris today" without feeling in some way incorrect. One of the arguments put forth by the petitioner is that the east summit is "unnamed". I promise those of you that may have less experience with the mountain that it does have a name, and that name is Mt. Sopris.

By most measures both the east and west summits of Mt. Sopris are of equal height (12,953') and thus BOTH are considered "Mt. Sopris". Many mountaineers summit only the east peak (the one in question) when they scale Sopris's long slopes. Though the peaks do fit the standard criteria in Colorado (300 feet of topographical prominence) to qualify as individual peaks, when one steps back it is clear that Sopris is one mountain.

Mount Sopris
Clouds over Mt. Sopris
Sopris
Mt. Sopris and Thomas Lakes


I suppose it is a pointless rant, as the likelihood of the U.S. Board of Geographic Names changing Mt. Sopris is slim, and even if such a change did occur, I suspect most of the people in the Roaring Fork Valley would never accept it (except maybe a few in Aspen, but in my mind they have no say as the mountain is not visible from their backyards). Let me say this, however. The individual behind the petition, whom I believe is from Denver, has claimed that the resistance to the proposal is based on the misunderstanding that they want to change the name of the entire mountain. This is not true. We here who this change will most effect understand their proposal perfectly. The other claim put forth (in a recent Aspen Times interview) is that the opposition is very small but very vocal. This couldn't be further from the truth. Of all the many locals I have talked to, almost all are outraged by this ludicrous idea, and if the petitioner could read the letters to the editor in the local newspaper it would be clear that the opposition is not so small.

Stairway to Heaven
The last hill to the east summit of Sopris
Sunrise on Sopris
Atop the east summit of Sopris in the early morning

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The petition AGAINST changing the name of Mt. Sopris's east summit here

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lcarreauA fitting tribute would be

lcarreau

Voted 10/10

to name an entire mountain after him, instead of just one summit.

There's plenty of peaks that currently have NO names, and one of
these could be named J.D. Peak.

Don't think I'd mess around with a name like Sopris. Let's keep it, and remember Denver through his music rather than mountains.
Posted Sep 11, 2011 8:39 am

LegpoweredRe: A fitting tribute would be

Legpowered

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I agree with you 100%. They can name a peak after with him and I'd even support it. But not Sopris! Take care Larry
Posted Sep 11, 2011 6:31 pm

Matt LemkeFair...

Matt Lemke

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I can understand why you wouldn't want Sopris re-named. I'd say give his name to another un-named peak as well. However what I will say is that anyone who doesn't like John Denver's music makes me sick. He was IMO the best singer to ever come from Colorado.
Posted Sep 11, 2011 1:25 pm

LegpoweredRe: Fair...

Legpowered

Hasn't voted

I never said I didn't like his music. I like his music just fine. Though he isn't really from Colorado. Mr. Henry Deutschendorf is from New Mexico originally. I get what you are saying, though, he is best known for his Colorado years. As for me, I think if I had to pick a Colorado-residing singer, I'd probably take Jimmy Ibbotson. But that's just me. Take care!
Posted Sep 11, 2011 6:35 pm

Sarah SimonRe: Fair...

Sarah Simon

Voted 10/10

PS: Just to clarify, John "Denver" was actually born in New Mexico and was an Air Force brat. Yes, he eventually considered Colorado home, but given the trajectory of his career and where Colorado fit into the picture, I don't know that I'd consider him "from" Colorado. And, for the record, yes I grew up listening to his music and still enjoy his music. Thank God I'm a Country Boy is loaded on the hard-drive of my Rubicon as we speak!
Posted Sep 12, 2011 8:51 am

CSUMarmotNever

CSUMarmot

Voted 10/10

How ridiculous would John Denver Peak look on a quad? It would have to be unofficial because the USGS naming committee would never OK this.

There are hundreds of early settlers and mountaineers that deserve to have a peak named in their honor, so John Denver is waaaaaay down the list. Plus the fact that there is a 'movement' just makes me laugh. Unnamed peaks that get unofficial local names are chosen by 1 person and are eventually become agreed upon through the climbing community if they aren't totally stupid. John Denver Peak is stupid no matter what UN they push it on.
Posted Sep 11, 2011 5:08 pm

LegpoweredRe: Never

Legpowered

Hasn't voted

I agree with you 100%. Thanks for reading my rant. Take care!
Posted Sep 11, 2011 6:37 pm

lcarreauJust my two cents ...

lcarreau

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I know a-lotta people like John Denver, but wasn't Gilligan (Bob Denver) more famous and much more deserving of this special honor ???

Posted Sep 11, 2011 10:56 pm

mrchad9Clarification

mrchad9

Voted 10/10

I signed your petition, I agree with you 100%. But one question...

What is this business about renaming the summit but not the whole mountain? What the hell does that mean? I guess there are rare instances like Columbia Crest on Mount Rainier, but this must occur on less than 1% of peaks around. Is that what his fellow is trying to do?
Posted Sep 12, 2011 10:24 pm

LegpoweredRe: Clarification

Legpowered

Hasn't voted

I could see how it would sound confusing. Mt. Sopris has two distinct summits, both of which happen to be listed at the exact same elevation (12,953'). The summits also have almost exactly 300' of topographical prominence from each other, the minimum here in Colorado to be considered "official". But like Rainier, when you stand back from Sopris, especially to the north, it really is ONE mountain despite the multiple summits. The petitioner wants to rename just the east summit John Denver Peak.
Posted Sep 13, 2011 12:36 am

Nyle WaltonDeserving

Nyle Walton

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John Denver has done more to glamorize the Rocky Mountains and deserves to have a peak named after him. Who is Sopris?
Posted Sep 15, 2011 11:56 am

LegpoweredRe: Deserving

Legpowered

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Richard Sopris was one of the first explorers of the Roaring Fork Valley and an early Denver mayor. The point was, however, that Mt. Sopris already has a name. It is an insult to us from the Roaring Fork Valley for someone from out of the area to petition to change the name of the mountain that means so much to us. Would you want someone who was not from around petitioning to change the name of your cherished local mountain?
Posted Sep 15, 2011 11:11 pm

Nyle WaltonTouche.

Nyle Walton

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I understand your feelings and completely agree with you. There must be some other thirteen-thousanders in Colorado with which they can honor John Denver.
Posted Sep 17, 2011 12:49 pm

LegpoweredRe: Touche.

Legpowered

Hasn't voted

I think that would be a great idea. There are hundreds if not thousands of unnamed peaks in Colorado, name one of those after him!
Posted Sep 18, 2011 12:04 am

chicagotransplantCompletely Agree

chicagotransplant

Voted 10/10

I completely agree that re-naming one of the summits of an already named peak is not only inappropriate with regard to that mountain, its history and its significance to the RF Valley, but it is also insulting to John Denver, is he not "good enough" to get his own mountain?
Furthermore, the peak is in Maroon Bells-Snowmass Wilderness, and the USGS has been very resistant to changing names in Wilderness areas, also according to the maps, the east summit is the "real" summit, the BM is "Sopris" whereas the west summit the BM is "West Sopris". The east summit is also the summit that connects back to the rest of the range, it is the first summit connected to the peak's "parent", and is generally considered to be the "true summit" by the mountaineering community.
Keep Mt Sopris as Mt Sopris and give JD a different peak if they really want.
Posted Sep 19, 2011 10:58 am

LegpoweredRe: Completely Agree

Legpowered

Hasn't voted

Thanks for reading. I think you are right about the MB-S Wilderness not renaming peaks. Good information about Sopris and the West Sopris benchmark. Take care!
Posted Sep 19, 2011 11:33 am

NWI agree

NW

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I don't think that the name should be changed either. I was unaware of this and your write up was a good way to make it more public. With all the nameless mountains out there it shouldn't be hard to pick one of those or one of their summits if they want to give him that honor. Mount Katahdin in Maine has the summit named Baxter peak but everyone knows the name Mount Katahdin and the fact the peaks have different names isn't commonly refereed to by most. I have no issue with that naming but if they are looking for a way to keep his name known, a summit isn't going to be as good as a mountain, especially if it's all ready named.
Posted Sep 21, 2011 9:18 am

LegpoweredRe: I agree

Legpowered

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Good points. I appreciate you reading my article. Take care!
Posted Sep 21, 2011 10:30 am

vbeckman74Pick Another One

vbeckman74

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There are dozens of unnamed peaks in Colorado. Pick one of those and call it John Denver. I just waked past 6 of them on the way up Kit Carson.
Posted Oct 1, 2011 5:25 pm

LegpoweredRe: Pick Another One

Legpowered

Hasn't voted

I agree 100%. Happy trails!
Posted Oct 1, 2011 6:03 pm

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