Lion Head Winter Route Additions and Corrections
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|The route info has "under two hours" given as an approximate time for completion. My estimate would be 6-8 hours.|
|Posted Nov 25, 2002 12:02 pm|
|The Lion Head Winter Route itself is very short - I've done it in under an hour.......it's merely a connector between the Huntington Ravine Fire Road and the Lion Head Trail, which is more avalanche-prone in the winter time.|
I guess I should've clarified that the trailhead to summit takes 4-6 hours....but the actual Lion Head Winter Route takes less than 2. Sorry 'bout that.
|Posted Feb 13, 2004 12:33 pm|
|sewardj||60-70 degrees misleading|
|This description seems to incorrectly imply a 1,000-foot snow and ice climb of 60-70 degrees - a far different proposition than the Lion Head trail.|
An ice axe may be warranted on this route assuming one knows how to use it, but there is almost no "exposure" in a mountaineering sense.
There are a few ledges or steps that might briefly approach 60-70 degrees, but these bits are of almost trivial length.
|Posted Dec 21, 2008 12:19 pm|
|Foreman||Re: 60-70 degrees misleading|
|I agree with Sewardj with particular regard to the 60-70 degree comment. This is a very misleading. I would estimate a sustained slope of around 30 degrees or so on the route in snow where crampon work and step-kicking is rather easy for an intermediate - advanced mountaineer. |
In full-winter conditions, I would say that a classic ice axe is mandatory. Anything more aggressive is overkill and to impress the ladies.
|Posted Aug 5, 2016 2:08 pm|
|nixoriugis||How to justify an ice axe?|
|In planning for a climb this winter, I have trouble justifying bringing an ice axe unless there is freezing rain. Can someone point me wrong?|
If this is the technical crux, I would rather strap my axe on my pack and get handholds on rocks and trees than hooking on roots (LNT!) and rocks. Or use hiking poles if I want a cane.
If this is representative of the slopes higher up, and I would believe so since on my GPS track the slope never goes beyond 50% above tree line, it would be hard to fall and arresting would be easy with poles.
I will probably still bring an axe since I have one and everyone seems to bring it, but what if someone has never practiced self-arrest and has to shed money to rent one? Are we only bringing the axe for mountain cred, with guides overselling the route? Again, barring freezing rain.
I will update this post after my climb.
On another note, I'm considering using touring skis above tree line. Anyone know if there is usually enough snow for this?
|Posted Oct 31, 2017 2:20 am|