Stay away from areas where the naive and unwilling are. Then you will not encounter this issue. But, you may encounter this same response from fellow enthusiasts depending on what you attempt.

But does it matter in the end?

Who are you doing this all for anyway.

I tune them all out, regardless who they may be. They all just get in the way.

PS: One man's "crazy" is another mans normal. All depends on one's abilities, focus level, dedication and gifts.

Dave Dinnell wrote:

ksolem wrote:Soloing 5.10 is no big deal. Even I have done a lot of that. But there are folks out there like Honnold, Huber, etc., who solo 5.13. Now that might be a little crazy...

Which takes us right back to "crazy is all relative"

Precisely!

...I suppose the word I should've used is onsighting. I wouldn't have a huge problem soloing a hard line I'd memorized (not that there are any like that any more ). It's going out and climbing unknown stuff in Sedona where I wouldn't do anything over mid-5th. Yet there are folks who would.

...um, and they're crazy.

The Chief wrote:Stay away from areas where the naive and unwilling are. Then you will not encounter this issue...
I tune them all out, regardless who they may be. They all just get in the way.

PS: One man's "crazy" is another mans normal. All depends on one's abilities, focus level, dedication and gifts.

You're missing out if you don't climb at Devil's Tower. It is a powerful and magical place with great climbing too. But tourists are part of the scene there, are are best enjoyed. The rangers even do a demo act in the visitor center parking lot with a wall where they demonstrate the gear etc. It's very entertaining.

And when you get to the base and rope up, there's no tourons in your face then.

And The Tower is always ready to provide serene and powerful moments like this...