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Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby MoapaPk » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:23 pm

How do these fit? True to size?

I have some Kayland Contacts that are mens 9.5 (USA), and they are a bit tight with thick socks. When I wear them on a long day (say 20 miles), I always get a few toe blisters.

My other "occasional snow" boots have been size 10, and were a tiny bit sloppy.

I live in Las Vegas, so I'm in approach shoes 2-4 days a week, and consistently wear 9.5 (except for Mad Rock size 10). My running shoes are 10.

I have a rather low-volume foot, slightly wider than normal toes, and normal heels. No arch issues.

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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby Dow Williams » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:38 pm

I wear a 44 running/race Mizuno shoe and run a lot. I wear a 43.5 on the boots in question and have for the entire time they have been making them. So your estimation of trimming down a half Euro would be a good guess I would say.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby Dow Williams » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:02 pm

only if you are moving fast/hard, i.e. ice or rock climbing....if your foot is in the snow all the time, stopping a lot, etc. you might consider a slightly heavier boot....if you are out of the snow doing a lot of 5th class ridge work, these are perfect boots for that job...folks feet vary....mine never get cold to begin with and I am always moving at a high aerobic pace, ironically, the lighter everything on me is, the faster I am able to move, the less likely I am to get cold....this is a low weight fast moving boot
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby kevin trieu » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:06 pm

Vitaliy M wrote:Do you think these would be warm enough for sierra winter climbing, during days on which temp is not expected to drop bellow 10F?
No.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby kevin trieu » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:27 pm

MoapaPk wrote:How do these fit? True to size?

I have some Kayland Contacts that are mens 9.5 (USA), and they are a bit tight with thick socks. When I wear them on a long day (say 20 miles), I always get a few toe blisters.

My other "occasional snow" boots have been size 10, and were a tiny bit sloppy.

I live in Las Vegas, so I'm in approach shoes 2-4 days a week, and consistently wear 9.5 (except for Mad Rock size 10). My running shoes are 10.

I have a rather low-volume foot, slightly wider than normal toes, and normal heels. No arch issues.

Thanks.


I'm between 10-10.5 US and I have two pairs of LS in 43.5 Euro. You should get between 42.5-43. When it was new I did fall and spring climbs in the S Evo. After three years of extended use I wore them on my JMT hike. All the threads are gone but the shoes still have another season or two left.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby seano » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:03 pm

Vitaliy M wrote:Do you think these would be warm enough for sierra winter climbing, during days on which temp is not expected to drop bellow 10F?

It depends on your feet and how much you're moving. I wore these last winter hiking around 0F with expedition-weight wool socks and thin liners, and my feet were cold but not numb. This was from a cold start (sleeping in the 0F car at the TH). Something warmer (and more expensive) might have been nice, but they weren't bad, and with plastic-bag vapor barriers they might even have been comfy.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby asmrz » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:43 pm

I wore these last February in Scotland in several days of wet and later very cold conditions and the Goretex barrier worked extremely well. In the Sierra in late fall, climbing ice gullies, they are great. Climbing on ridges and mostly on rock in the Sierra in the winter, they are warm enough (for me). If you don't generally get cold feet (I don't), then these could be good enough for winter technical rock climbs in the Sierra. But I have never slogged in the deep snow in these for extended amount of time. The step up boots from LaSportiva are about $100 more, much warmer but a bit more bulky for rock work. My buddy Miguel has the Trango EXT Evo Light GTX, loves the warmth, but says they feel a bit awkward on 5.7/5.8 rock. I like the narrow toe and the light weight of the S Evo GTX. But I have never suffered from cold feet so that is a huge consideration. They size exactly the same as my running and street shoes which are 9.5-10, I would not buy them any smaller than 43.5, especially if you are going to hike a lot in them.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby MoapaPk » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:42 pm

I would never consider these as true winter boots, but was hoping that June in snow, in the continental US, wouldn't be that bad with a change of thick socks and neoprene socks on the side. The lit seems to imply that the midsoles are made to withstand the conduction heat loss that occurs when cramponing on snow for hours.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby asmrz » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:41 pm

June, anywhere in the US (except Alaska), absolutely no problem, in fact a bit of an overkill (quality, purpose, cost IMO) for simple hiking on snow.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby MoapaPk » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:29 am

asmrz wrote:June, anywhere in the US (except Alaska), absolutely no problem, in fact a bit of an overkill (quality, purpose, cost IMO) for simple hiking on snow.



Oops, meant contiguous 48. But probably not simple hikes; crampons for 10 hours and 45 degree slopes at times.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby hatidua » Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:08 am

I typically wear a 10.5-11 and find the Trango's in 45 fit me best. I originally bought a pair in 44.5 but sold them after one 4 mile hike, -simply too small. Bear in mind that I find La Sportiva sizing bizarre at best: my Glacier's are 44.5's, my Trango's are 45's, and my Boulder-X's are 45.5......and if you measure the soles on them, all three are identical. Someone in Italy has had a tad too much Chianti!
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby climberska » Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:23 am

I have a pair. Nice boots. Light weight. But the toe box is too small for me. Going downhill is not fun. Put some of those superfeet inserts into them and that helps, but they need assistance at the factory in learning how to size a toe box.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby boisedoc » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:43 pm

I wear a size 46 trango and generally wear US size 12 for running shoes. I use them in the winter in Idaho and usually do OK- as others have stated, they do get cold if there is snow around or on top of the boot but with snowshoes packing down the snow or if the snow is firm without too much postholing they work fine. I've had guides wear them on Mt. Hood in June and up to 18000ft in Peru in the summer. I think guides will wear them on Rainier in the late summer as well if the forecast is good. Not to cause too much thread drift, but be aware that these boots are not very rugged- if you use them on talus or scree very much, the fabric on the sides tears pretty quickly. I have gotten a little over a season out of them before they were destroyed. After the second pair was ruined, I went with a little more rugged version the Trango Alp GTX- I have not used them a lot yet but they have some extra leather on the sides instead of the fabric- they are probably slightly heavier but probably worth it if they last a little longer
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby JHH60 » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:07 pm

Trango last is such that fit doesn't seem to be predictable without trying the boot on. The toe box is in fact narrow but fits my particular foot shape well - I wear a size 10B street/running shoe and a 43.5 Trango S Evo fits me very well - snug around my foot but without any toe bang on descent. By comparison, a size 43.5 Nepal Evo is too small and I had to move up to a 44 in that boot to avoid losing tonenails. I don't use my Trango S for winter because I have the Nepals and I'd rather err on the side of being warm. It is a good boot for summer snow climbing in the Sierra, but a friend got frostbitten feet when wearing his on a June ascent of Liberty Ridge on Rainier so YMMV. Where they really seem to excel is alpine rock climbing.
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Re: Fitting Trango S EVO GTX

Postby Tonka » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:31 pm

My experience has made me start to purchase boots in a larger size then I used to. I wear a size 9 dress/running shoe and my Trangos are a 44. They still fit snug enough to feel like you have control but there is enough room in the toe box to handle warmer sock combos which you will need. These boots are not a full winter boot but because of their design I think people find themselves trying to get away with it. I used mine on a hut trip this Nov. in CO and got light frostbite on a 6 hour hike when the temps dropped to under 10 below. They were strapped in snowshoes and breaking trail which played into it.

I will say that I really like them.
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