Yes - "In the zone."
I think this connection can be trained.
I also think the experience can be transcendental.
by RayMondo » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:31 pm
by Guyzo » Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:45 pm
by Dow Williams » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 am
by Guyzo » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:07 am
Dow Williams wrote:.... climbing is like a good f___, relax, breath properly and go with the flow.....you will be better at it.
by rhyang » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:12 am
by RayMondo » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:23 pm
Guyzo wrote:Ray, I know what you mean about the "zone"... Your body makes movements before your brain tells them to. This lets your mind relax and take it all in, so it can do "thinking" things, like strategy...
...Good luck
by RayMondo » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:43 pm
rhyang wrote:...One problem is body temperature regulation .. I get cold easier, and if I'm not careful to keep my core warm, I get tremors in my left side muscles and sometimes the fingers of my left hand become paralyzed -- utterly unable to move, much like right after the accident. The doctors I've asked have no idea what the deal is with that .. so I try not to let that happen.
by rhyang » Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:12 pm
RayMondo wrote:rhyang wrote:...One problem is body temperature regulation .. I get cold easier, and if I'm not careful to keep my core warm, I get tremors in my left side muscles and sometimes the fingers of my left hand become paralyzed -- utterly unable to move, much like right after the accident. The doctors I've asked have no idea what the deal is with that .. so I try not to let that happen.
Since having a big stress epic, my adrenals are overactive, putting me in "flight" mode (as in fight or flight), this affects my circulation. It will resolve when my head is totally sorted. But for now I get bitterly cold fingers when it's just 5 C, so I don't go winter climbing at all.
To protect the hands, there is a battery-pack device which attaches to the body and fools the system that the core is warmer. The amazing result is that full bloodflow then goes to the fingers and guys in the Arctic have completely warm fingers. Yet there is no adverse affect to the core. I'll try to find an article on it
by Guyzo » Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:55 pm
by JHH60 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:59 pm
Dow Williams wrote:I am amazed at how many sub par athletes way over think climbing or running for that matter...unless you are pushing the boundries of your particular sport, climbing is like a good f___, relax, breath properly and go with the flow.....you will be better at it.
by RayMondo » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:57 pm
by CClaude » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:47 pm
JHH60 wrote:Dow Williams wrote:I am amazed at how many sub par athletes way over think climbing or running for that matter...unless you are pushing the boundries of your particular sport, climbing is like a good f___, relax, breath properly and go with the flow.....you will be better at it.
Speaking as an admitted subpar athlete in several of the sports I enjoy , mental challenge (fear, worry) comes in to play not only when you are pushing the absolute boundary of a sport, but also when you are pushing your own personal boundaries. For me it isn't usually fear of death or injury but rather fear of not meeting my own goals or holding back my buddy or the team. "Just relax and enjoy it" is good advice, but visualizing successful completion of the task has helped me do that.
by JHH60 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:55 pm
CClaude wrote:JHH60 wrote:... "Just relax and enjoy it" is good advice, but visualizing successful completion of the task has helped me do that.
Actually the opposite holds true for me. I try to have no preconcieved notion of "success" and I don't even visualize that. I can visualize individual moves from the ground/belay and that is all I do. If I concentrate on doing it right, it will come. Getting something clean or falling are just outcomes which will happen.
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