Downy wrote:He had more experience than you all put together. He was with Timmy Madsen, who also has more experience than all of you could ever hope to have, actually being from the mtns.
Really? How much time have I spent in the mountains?
by mconnell » Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:17 pm
Downy wrote:He had more experience than you all put together. He was with Timmy Madsen, who also has more experience than all of you could ever hope to have, actually being from the mtns.
by mconnell » Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:19 pm
Downy wrote:He had more experience than you all put together. He was with Timmy Madsen, who also has more experience than all of you could ever hope to have, actually being from the mtns. He had multiple fractures and likely died within minutes of the avalanche. Sometimes good people have bad things happen to them.
by The Chief » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:52 pm
Downy wrote:He had more experience than you all put together. He was with Timmy Madsen, who also has more experience than all of you could ever hope to have, actually being from the mtns.
by T Sharp » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:02 am
by Ed F » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:27 pm
DO NOT GO INTO THE BC WHEN THE AVY CONDITON'S ARE PRIME TO KILL YOU, REGARDLESS OF ALL THE REI TOYS YOU HAVE ON YOUR BODY. SIMPLE!
if the avalance conditions are high - don't go!
Use that one piece of equipment that is free....
YOUR BRAINS!
Best to ski at the area or go somewhere your highly familiar with when the conditions are high.
by mconnell » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:25 pm
The Chief wrote:
According the CAIC Report, they were all in the Hut. Seems he went out on his own. A big no no from the group of "experienced" folks in my neck of the woods.
Shortly after the avalanche, other members of the group began a search of the debris. The victim was not wearing an avalanche beacon. The group attempted to locate the victim using probe poles, but was unable to find him.
by The Chief » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:32 pm
by mconnell » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:51 pm
The Chief wrote:"Anyone with any real time AVY Control experience in them hills, damn well knows that during a below normal snow season, just like the one they are currently having this season, the shit facet layers build and no one goes out after any storm. They wait till later in the season, late March/April time frame, after all of the crap layers settle."
by The Chief » Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:33 am
mconnell wrote:I was basing my comments on the CAIC article, so thanks for the info.The Chief wrote:"Anyone with any real time AVY Control experience in them hills, damn well knows that during a below normal snow season, just like the one they are currently having this season, the shit facet layers build and no one goes out after any storm. They wait till later in the season, late March/April time frame, after all of the crap layers settle."
Speaking from personal experience around here, the claim that no one goes out until later in the season is BS. Many people, many who have a lot of experience in control/rescue/etc., go out throughout the season.
by mconnell » Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:58 am
The Chief wrote:mconnell wrote:I was basing my comments on the CAIC article, so thanks for the info.The Chief wrote:"Anyone with any real time AVY Control experience in them hills, damn well knows that during a below normal snow season, just like the one they are currently having this season, the shit facet layers build and no one goes out after any storm. They wait till later in the season, late March/April time frame, after all of the crap layers settle."
Speaking from personal experience around here, the claim that no one goes out until later in the season is BS. Many people, many who have a lot of experience in control/rescue/etc., go out throughout the season.
I am not going to argue with the dude. He worked full-time at both Steamboat and Vail SP in Control for a combined total of 12 years in the late 70's through the late 80's. He has been Patrolling full-time since 1977.
And, if you in fact have spent time here on the Eastside, you most definitely will know him. He and his wife are amongst the elite group of senior experienced Patroller's/AVY Forecasters-Control Operators in the North America.
Just saying....
by Ed F » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:10 pm
by Downy » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:49 pm
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