Of ECHO CLIFFS in Malibu area.
Heed the CLOSURE!
http://www.nps.gov/samo/upload/PublicNo ... ch2010.PDF
by The Chief » Wed May 12, 2010 10:09 pm
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 1:00 am
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 3:06 am
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 4:21 pm
HandjamMasterC wrote:What on earth could be worth climbing in Malibu? Go climb in Idylwild for Christ's sake!
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 5:33 pm
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 6:14 pm
Gary Schenk wrote:Old 1/4"ers have been replaced with 3/8", sometimes with power drills, mostly hand drilled.
Some locals have put up some new routes on the Aviator Wall, their method of drilling is unkown to me.
You could hardly call it "proliferation". But power drills should not be used in a wilderness area.
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 6:49 pm
by fossana » Thu May 13, 2010 6:59 pm
redneck wrote:I hope that doesn't interfere with a planned hike on the Mishe Mokwa Trail to Sandstone Peak.
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 7:21 pm
Gary Schenk wrote:That cuts both ways. Nowhere on the Lake Mead NRA map does it indicate wilderness areas. Nowhere in the area of Christmas Tree Pass or Spirit Mountain is there an indication of any sort that you are entering a wilderness area. Not a single sign.
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 7:30 pm
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 7:48 pm
Gary Schenk wrote:The Chief wrote:Did anyone actually go into the Lake Mead NRA Ranger Station, converse with the local LEO's and get informed on the local bolting/FAing policy from them? And communicate your intentions with them?
Or, did you all do as many do out there, ASSUME that is was OK and went ahead and did the FA's/bolting?
Chief, you should drive out to the pass sometime. This isn't Josh, or Alabama Hills or Owens Gorge. There are no NPS facilities, there is no ranger station. There are no rangers. It's real desert.
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 7:53 pm
Gary Schenk wrote:From now on I will consult Rand McNally before any backcountry trips.
by The Chief » Thu May 13, 2010 10:46 pm
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