Mescalito345 wrote:If you're sliding at a high rate of speed on an icy slope, and then you kick in with your crampons, isn't it likely that you'd flip over?
Mountainjeff wrote:It does not appear that anyone in the video was wearing crampons. I am usually willing to dig my toes in if I don't have crampons on. Typical PNW summer snow is loose enough to not cause a flip.
Mescalito345 wrote:In the Jason Martin article on the AAI website, he describes the three "schools of thought" on this topic. Seems like the second school is the most reasonable (kick in when not wearing crampons, feet up when wearing crampons).
If you are on hard, solid ice or neve, then it's usually better to kick your feet up into the air. If you are on semi-solid terrain with occasional harder sections, then it's probably better to kick your toes in. This "it depends" approach isn't what most people want to hear. They want to hear a black and white answer; in part because a black and white answer is easier to remember in the heat of the moment.
rockymtnclimber wrote:I self-arrested after a 2000ft glissade down the Corridor about Camp Schurman, and I dug in my toes, crampons and all.
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