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Postby mvs » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:31 pm

I often identify myself as a "technical climber," and I get the feeling that the membership has heard quite enough, thank you, from such people in recent weeks. Just one more thing. Although I can see that there are things to be improved at Summitpost vis-a-vis technical goals in the mountains, I need to distance myself from a few notions that are flying around. Here is what I believe:

  • technical climbing is no more or less better than any other kind of human-powered mountain activity.
  • A technical climber is ALSO a hiker, skier and snowshoer BY DEFINITION. The technical part is only the specialization that happens on a trip provided that a particular X/Y coordinate was reached and the weather is safe to fool around with ropes.
  • Somebody who elevates one specialization above another, or above the general case, is merely denigrating himself. The moment I fail to appreciate the forest I hike through on the way to the cliff is the moment that I fail to offer the mountain environment and it's experiences the respect that is deserved.
  • Respect other people. Sometimes I don't want to read 3 paragraphs about the long traverse through old growth below the moraine. But I'm perfectly happy to read 3 paragraphs about the "crux move" on my current objective. There is a skill I can apply without lashing out at others, called "skimming."

For most of us, our first experiences in the mountains were on foot. And likely our last will be. It is simple, and in touch with the earth. That simplicity is only boring when we treat the mountains like a gym. Summitpost is for all of us who walk the mountains and have something to say on return. Despite my recent activism for changes in the way we edit the site, anything that makes a group feel "less than" is a wrong move.

Maybe some other technical-types will have a story similar to my own. All I wanted to do in the beginning years was walk. I moved from Texas to the Northwest because of the vast public lands covered in forests and glaciers. Once, as a teenager I got in trouble for trespassing across a vast ranch. I just wanted to walk, and couldn't do it in Texas. I thought that was sad because of the outsized reputation Texas has for rugged prairie and open sky, but oh well.

The whole technical orientation came on gradually over several years. It grew from a natural curiosity about what the environment was like on the more forbidding cliffs and snowfields. Like any "intense" activity, it's one that can seem a world unto itself. However it exists, or should exist from my point of view, as a special environment nurtured by the broader and more forgiving realm of hiking. I've seen there is a magazine called "Urban Climber." Okay. I don't get it.

I do more hiking than climbing, and until we get jet packs to reach the alpine cliffs, that will always be true. And every year I go on some multiday hikes that are rewarding in a different way from more technical goals. For years I've loved something Kev Reynolds, author of Alpine hiking guidebooks said:

"...from the point of view of the walker who is, after all, in the most favoured position to witness and enjoy mountain scenery in all its abundant variety. The motorist is divorced from all that is best in the Alps by being restricted to the highway. The non-active tourist is confined to mechanised means of uplift, the climber's attention is for the most part taken up with the intracacies of his chosen route, while the downhill skier needs full concentration in the rush to get to the foot of the slope without accident. Only the mountain walker, the individual with good general fitness, a modicum of scrambling experience and an eye for the hills, can move far enough and at the right pace to enjoy the full range of wonders that the Alps so generously offer."


For me this statement is absolutely true. And as I look years into the future, I become a hiker again, with the years of climbing becoming an exciting memory. I recognize that this is my unique path. We shouldn't misapply our natural inclination to build hierarchies to a place where it's neither helpful nor desired.

Thanks, :)
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby ExcitableBoy » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:40 pm

Beautifully said Michael.
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby chugach mtn boy » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:50 pm

mvs for elf.

I think the true spirit of SP is to value both ends of the community, and to appreciate the unique fusion that occurs here among several different styles of mountain lovers.
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby mvs » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:06 pm

Haha, thanks yall! As for the elf thing, been there, done that. That job is too damn hard day in and day out. Kudos to those guys with stamina...
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby chugach mtn boy » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:47 pm

You are cool enough, borut ... grumpy but cool! :) One of the SPers I wish I knew in person.
So, is this going to be the Kumbaya thread?
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby mvs » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:11 pm

chugach mtn boy wrote:You are cool enough, borut ... grumpy but cool! :) One of the SPers I wish I knew in person.
So, is this going to be the Kumbaya thread?


I'd say it's better if folks just read it and keep walking. What I said is really just a restatement of the obvious default position, and doesn't deserve any special mention. Maybe Lcarreau should come in and close us out with a nice picture, but threads that go on for pages seem to collapse under their own weight. :lol:
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby kamil » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:12 pm

Michael, I couldn't word it better.
A long time ago I wrote in 'a few words' on my profile page: 'Hiker, mountaineer, trad and sport climber, in any order.'
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby lcarreau » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:27 am

chugach mtn boy wrote:You are cool enough, borut ... grumpy but cool! :) One of the SPers I wish I knew in person.
So, is this going to be the Kumbaya thread?


mvs wrote:
chugach mtn boy wrote: Maybe Lcarreau should come in and close us out with a nice picture, but threads that go on for pages seem to collapse under their own weight. :lol:


SORRY, fellows, I was frolicking in the mountains today. This is the best I can muster on the spur of the moment ... 8)

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Re: We are all hikers

Postby goldenhopper » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:17 am

Well said mvs.

I posted a thread many years ago called "Hiking vs. Mountaineering" that expressed many of the sentiments mvs articulated so well above. I think the most important part of the whole gig (to use a Chiefism) is the fact that we all love the mountains. Sometimes I feel some folks let the technical aspect, gear, FA's and on paper accomplishments get in the way of the true spirit of travel by foot and hand over the high country. Still, to each his own...

That's just the opinion of this tree hugging, unfiltered stream water drinking, trail walking and scrambling hill lover.
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby lcarreau » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:34 am

goldenhopper wrote:Well said mvs.

... That's just the opinion of this unfiltered stream water drinking ... hill lover.


My hats off to you. The last time I drank unfiltered stream water, well ... ended up growing HAIR on my chest ..

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Re: We are all hikers

Postby Lolli » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:36 am

Well put, mvs.

Edit: I used to get a LOT of shit for saying exactly that: we are all hikers.
or the other way around: it's all climbing.
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby Baarb » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:39 am

There are a lot of non-mountain related things on SP, perhaps mostly albums, are there any lines?
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Re: We are all hikers

Postby lcarreau » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:48 am

Baarb wrote:There are a lot of non-mountain related things on SP, perhaps mostly albums, are there any lines?


Depends on what kind of "lines" you're talking about.

I got plenty of LINES on my face, but they always seem to fade away whenever I'm enjoying myself in the mountains.

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Re: We are all hikers

Postby lcarreau » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:59 am

I BEG to differ. Some of us are BIKERS ..

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