Formulating our final Valentines plans for the following day, Danny Urioste, Kenny and I hit the Schwa. Kenny led the direct pitch, I led the O/W splitter and we all top roped a 5.12- problem intermingled with the first pitch. This is a must for locals looking to bag the best splitters Red Rock has to offer. Someone on Mountain Project referenced triple 3's and 4's for the 2nd pitch. Doubles are more than adequate. Handren's call for single to 7" is not necessary either, a single #5 protects the crux pod well. Any true 5.10 climbing is short lived on both pitches. The Herbst route rated 5.10d pales in comparison to the last one of his that Danny and I did together, Holed Up at 5.10b. Like all climbers, it probably depended on when Joe did the FA's and who he was with as to how he rated them.