I've titled this route page "Northwest Ridge", though all guidebooks refer to it at "Northwest Arete". After climbing the route and observing the neighboring arete to the left, I believe this page describes the NW Arete as described in Secor. However, based on Moynier's photo and route description ("exposed arete... involves traversing knife-edges and gendarmes"), I believe the left-hand route is what he refers to as NW Arete. So, preserving the "NW Arete" name for a page on that route.
Haishan, I reviewed Secor's description and a forum thread on this route and suggest you change the name to Northwest Arete. I believe this is the established name for this "classic" route.
The ridge right of the shallow gully is probably the "Northwest Arete" because:
- Secor states "It is easier to climb the chute left (northeast) of the arete." Indicating the route is on the right.
- Secor again states in describing the N. Face route that there is a "chute that is left of the northwest arete."
- bc44caesar downclimbed the ridge right of the chute and called it good quality class 4 and a classic
- asmrz climbed the ridge left of the chute and called it 5.6/5.7, not class 4
- I believe Moynier errs in saying the route is the rightmost of the two aretes that form the Chouinard-Sunwoo "narrow ice gully' route
Hi folks,
Didn't mean to be a wrench in the cogs of SP governance... haven't been over here in a while. I agree it's pretty clear this is the NW Arete route listed in guidebooks, no qualms in fixing the page name as such. Cheers!
Been reading about this issue for some time. Perhaps someone could tell me what route on the mountain this is?
http://esa-rol.com/content/gallery.php?AID=36
I climbed this version in June 2012 and am calling it the north ridge, but that may not be all that accurate as I didn't have a compass and the possibilities for variations seem endless.
haishan - Sep 11, 2013 12:01 am - Hasn't voted
Which route?I've titled this route page "Northwest Ridge", though all guidebooks refer to it at "Northwest Arete". After climbing the route and observing the neighboring arete to the left, I believe this page describes the NW Arete as described in Secor. However, based on Moynier's photo and route description ("exposed arete... involves traversing knife-edges and gendarmes"), I believe the left-hand route is what he refers to as NW Arete. So, preserving the "NW Arete" name for a page on that route.
Donno - Apr 15, 2015 8:58 pm - Hasn't voted
Route NameHaishan, I reviewed Secor's description and a forum thread on this route and suggest you change the name to Northwest Arete. I believe this is the established name for this "classic" route.
The ridge right of the shallow gully is probably the "Northwest Arete" because:
- Secor states "It is easier to climb the chute left (northeast) of the arete." Indicating the route is on the right.
- Secor again states in describing the N. Face route that there is a "chute that is left of the northwest arete."
- bc44caesar downclimbed the ridge right of the chute and called it good quality class 4 and a classic
- asmrz climbed the ridge left of the chute and called it 5.6/5.7, not class 4
- I believe Moynier errs in saying the route is the rightmost of the two aretes that form the Chouinard-Sunwoo "narrow ice gully' route
Romain - Apr 22, 2015 4:18 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Route NameDonno is right, this should be called the NW Arete. It is the classic arete.
haishan - May 31, 2015 3:53 pm - Hasn't voted
NW AreteHi folks,
Didn't mean to be a wrench in the cogs of SP governance... haven't been over here in a while. I agree it's pretty clear this is the NW Arete route listed in guidebooks, no qualms in fixing the page name as such. Cheers!
pcole8787 - May 16, 2016 5:45 pm - Hasn't voted
Still confusedBeen reading about this issue for some time. Perhaps someone could tell me what route on the mountain this is?
http://esa-rol.com/content/gallery.php?AID=36
I climbed this version in June 2012 and am calling it the north ridge, but that may not be all that accurate as I didn't have a compass and the possibilities for variations seem endless.
Any feedback most welcom @ justmeotw@comcast.net
Donno - Jun 20, 2016 7:40 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Still confusedI believe you climbed the N. Face to the upper North Ridge.See photo I added.