by brandon » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:11 am
by nickmech » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:49 am
by johnm » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:08 pm
by Teresa Gergen » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:04 pm
by Day Hiker » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:22 pm
Teresa Gergen wrote:But if you want to count every last point that reaches over 14,000 ft in CO, there are 67 points:
(count every row; the numbered ones to the left are only the ranked ones)
http://listsofjohn.com/PeakStats/select.php?sort=&S=CO&R=14
Washington has 3 14ers, all on the Rainier massif: Columbia Crest (ranked), Liberty Cap (ranked), and "Point Success" (unranked):
http://listsofjohn.com/PeakStats/select.php?R=14&sort=&P=0&S=WA
For CA, there are 15 "traditional" 14ers, including the 3 unranked Thunderbolt, Starlight, and Polemonium, but there are a total of 18 points that reach over 14,000 ft:
http://listsofjohn.com/PeakStats/select.php?R=14&sort=&P=0&S=CA
by Dougald5 » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:41 pm
by Teresa Gergen » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:44 pm
by Teresa Gergen » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:52 pm
by fatdad » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:26 pm
by Damien Gildea » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:20 pm
fatdad wrote:Goran Kropp, who's a perfect example of that approach to life.
by Snowslogger » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:37 pm
Damien Gildea wrote:fatdad wrote:Goran Kropp, who's a perfect example of that approach to life.
Kropp was a terrible example to any young climber. His book was pulped due to controversy over the lies in it. He did not 'solo' Everest, by any terms, and he used the Sherpa-built route, tried to hide it, and he had a crew supplying him with food, so he was in no way unsupported. But he was good with the talking and the media and was more about the celebrity than the climbing. He is a good example of how this type of one-upmanship and its associated publicity can go awry.
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by Damien Gildea » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:08 am
Snowslogger wrote:On the other hand, he had the sense to turn around on Everest, come back and summit another day and more importantly, get down.
by fatdad » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:17 am
Damien Gildea wrote:fatdad wrote:Goran Kropp, who's a perfect example of that approach to life.
Kropp was a terrible example to any young climber. His book was pulped due to controversy over the lies in it. He did not 'solo' Everest, by any terms, and he used the Sherpa-built route, tried to hide it, and he had a crew supplying him with food, so he was in no way unsupported. But he was good with the talking and the media and was more about the celebrity than the climbing. He is a good example of how this type of one-upmanship and its associated publicity can go awry.
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