by Cy Kaicener » Thu May 24, 2012 9:22 pm
by simonov » Thu May 24, 2012 11:39 pm
Damien Gildea wrote:These people also have the funds to fail and try again next year, as they often do. It's the people who bank everything on a budget operator and 'need' to succeed, who can't afford to fail, that are a worry.
I hate to say this, and I had to re-think the same way for Denali, after climbing it years ago, but the 'problem' is either certain unguided - but incompetent and inexperienced - climbers or, in the case of Everest, 'climbers' on budget trips with no guide and minimal Sherpa support. Skimping on 'luxury' / security is fine, I do it voluntarily, but the people doing it nowadays are people who do not have the experience or skill to do it, and don't know, or care, when they are in over their heads.
by klwagar » Fri May 25, 2012 1:59 am
by DanTheMan » Fri May 25, 2012 8:00 pm
This tells the story of the lady from Canada who had never climbed a mountain in her life before and hiked around Toronto for 6 months prior to the 100,000 dollar trip with a Nepalese company. Although it is incredibly sad for her family who took out a mortgage on their home to finance this trip it shows that now anyone can "climb" a big mountain if you have enough money.
by Hotoven » Sat May 26, 2012 4:15 am
DanTheMan wrote: Is it me, or do these boots look way too flexible or loose?
by Hotoven » Sat May 26, 2012 4:21 am
The area above the last camp at the South Col is nicknamed the “death zone” because of the steep icy slope, treacherous conditions and low oxygen level.
by Enkidu » Sat May 26, 2012 5:20 am
Hotoven wrote:The article says this:The area above the last camp at the South Col is nicknamed the “death zone” because of the steep icy slope, treacherous conditions and low oxygen level.
From what I understand, the oxygen is the same amount as it is at sea level, its the lack of air pressure that would otherwise condenses the oxygen and make it easier to breath right?
I'm not high altitude climber so correct me if I'm wrong.
by klwagar » Sat May 26, 2012 3:36 pm
by Damien Gildea » Sat May 26, 2012 11:21 pm
klwagar wrote:... who once went on a 24-hour hunger strike to protest against Ontario’s high auto-insurance premiums,
by Hotoven » Sun May 27, 2012 4:03 am
Damien Gildea wrote:klwagar wrote:... who once went on a 24-hour hunger strike to protest against Ontario’s high auto-insurance premiums,
I hope that's either a misquote or an error in reporting.
by ScottyP » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:18 am
by Gafoto » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:21 am
Hotoven wrote:DanTheMan wrote: Is it me, or do these boots look way too flexible or loose?
Looks like a posed photo. She may have just slid on the boots for the sweet photo opportunity by camp (Still a bad idea).
by DukeJH » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:42 pm
Damien Gildea wrote:I've never been a client on a guided expedition, so normally I'm strongly - some would say too strongly - in favour of going unguided and anti-masscommercial guiding. Just to be clear - I believe it's better to start small, build your skill, get your own experience, don't buy short-cuts and go as high, or as hard, as you can under your own steam. Don't endanger others and truly own your successes. ...they should hire the best guide service they can.
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