Diamox is about as performance enhancing to the acclimitised as is aspirin to the non-ached.

Catamount wrote:

radson wrote:Diamox is about as performance enhancing to the acclimitised as is aspirin to the non-ached.

I only brought it up because I use it at mid-altitude and don't want to come across as being holier-than-thou.

Fair enough. I only think it is cheating if someone is less than transparent in how they climbed.

Buhl wasn't the only one to have amphetamines in his kit-bag seventy-eighty years ago.

Using boots is cheating. All climbing should be done barefoot.

Blowing out adrenals and such w/stimulants. He get's a rush now. He gets performance now. He feels good now. But pays later.

i don't climb so I don't know, but I figured when you're doing technical rock climbing, you are slowed down by getting the right holds and all that - not fatigue (if you're well trained). is that wrong? it seems like you good get sufficient cardiovascular training that it wouldn't be a limiting factor (and no need for EPO)

Who cares if it is cheating. Only person he is cheating is himself. I'd be more worried about his health.. EPO is not exactly Ibuprofen.

Edit: Sorry double post...

I would suggest going climbing with another girl

When I hike/climb I like to use these. Is it cheating?

"90% organic, entirely natural." I love it! Maybe the other 10% is sand.

i see it like this..
if your patagoina and La Sportiva sponsorship was about to expire because you weren't strong enough to red point some 5.16 or some ED5 alpine route or speed solo, you would pump all sorts of shit into your self...
Its naive of us to think that all the top dudes in climbing aren't all on some form of performance enhancing drugs.... Piratically every other sport has had some scandal with top athletes using them.... I doubt there will ever be piss test before alpine climbs.....
When there is money or golden ice axes involved who bloody knows....

Would epo and steroids be aid climbing? Chocolate energy gells ftw