Sam Page wrote:kiwiw wrote:nifty, I'd go second...
-1. I'd rather go first with a back-up anchor.
I was thinking the same, especially since I'm always the heaviest in any group.
by Day Hiker » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:57 am
Sam Page wrote:kiwiw wrote:nifty, I'd go second...
-1. I'd rather go first with a back-up anchor.
by brenta » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:24 am
by Day Hiker » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:30 am
brenta wrote:On the other hand, it is not usable when the rope is damaged, because it requires rappelling on both strands.
by brenta » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:52 am
Day Hiker wrote:Could you not just rap single-strand, using a 'biner block (and a quick link instead of the 'biner in the photo)?
Day Hiker wrote:So maybe it was initially setup with the gate facing up.
by JackCarr » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:35 pm
by nattfodd » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:10 pm
by climbxclimb » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:14 pm
by as » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:31 pm
by phlipdascrip » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:40 pm
Chewbacca wrote:What's stopping the sling from pulling the loop through the hole? There's bound to be a bit of friction and no Abalakovs last forever. Depedning on the diameter of the rope, at some point the loop will get pulled through or at least pulled into the hole and then everything is stuck.
nattfodd wrote:Since the sling is going to pull the rope in the V-thread entrance as hard as it can, and since this is on ice, I would be quite worried that the connection between rope and sling freezes and that it becomes impossible to pull hard enough to separate them (especially if the biner acts as a redirect of the pull direction). And that would mean a stuck rope, which is a problem much bigger than losing a piece of perlon cord.
as wrote:ingeneous but totally unnecessary, you don't need a carabiner to rappel on an abalakov, only a short piece of cord to make a loop through the abalakov, or if you dont want to waste the cordelette, just run the main rope through the holes.
by Brad Marshall » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:23 pm
kiwiw wrote:you pull the rope, as you pull, that loop threaded through the sling pulls through, the sewn sling slides through the abaklov, and it all comes down, only the hole in the ice remains.
understand?
by nartreb » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:53 pm
by phlipdascrip » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:30 pm
by climbncookie » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:43 pm
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