Dow Williams wrote:The climbers I have met for the most part have easily divided into two groups...those to busy climbing to spray and analyze topics to death on the internet...and those who talk more than they climb, thus the need for a forum like this. Keeps everyone sorted out where they are most comfortable.

lcarreau wrote:I have nothing against a bunch of dirtbag rock climbers driving their subies in the Sierras.

But, doesn't this thread sound a bit like the "California" thread?

I think that's why so many were saying "their area" was best, because they were hearing
so much about California, and "so less" on other areas.

Should I post another wrestling picture ???

ksolem wrote:Why do the Subie's all sound liker they're running on 3 cylinders??

mconnell wrote:

ksolem wrote:Why do the Subie's all sound liker they're running on 3 cylinders??

Mine probably is. How long are spark plugs supposed to last?

mconnell wrote:

ksolem wrote:Why do the Subie's all sound liker they're running on 3 cylinders??

Mine probably is. How long are spark plugs supposed to last?

Guyzo wrote:

MarthaP wrote:While I'm sure the best of intentions was considered when creating this forum, it really seems to have degenerated into a bunch of blathering. I'll 'fess up to contributing to that.

But it's looking more like ArCee dot n00b every day, and that's not a compliment. Their community forum was ripe with tangential rip-offs posted by people trying really hard to be clever and cute. It's already the mode d'emploi here and you know what happens once a precedent is set...

It got old reeeeallllly fast. And their Community forum equated to SP's PnP and now Ethics, Spray and Slander as well.

Soooooo, I say we just get rid of the durned thing. Anything unmoderated, regardless of topic, belongs in the skanky version of PnP. Post pics of Boobs galore there (and don't forget Gee DoubleYah as one of them) and I won't get involved in that boyhood slagheap.

This monster really needs to go before it gets more publicly stupid than it already is.

JMHO.
Martha

Marthia.

Looking at your profile and history.....

You are obviously Not a Climber by any stretch of the imagination.

No disrespect intended, because everybody on SP at least gets out and suffers some and that will make you one of the tribe. Suffering is something I have a deep understanding of.

One of the things I really love about SummitPost is the wide-open, free flowing discussions we engage in.
Real climbers sometimes engage in esoteric discussions and these can become quite heated.

Many times folks on SP, who are not really “Climbers” Jump in and complain about the tenor and tone of these posts.

I hoped that this would be the place where someone like me, could engage in deep talks with other Rock Climbers about the real serious issues that bind and divide us.

I hope after the initial “newness” wears off this will be such a place.

You don’t need to be involved with anything we wish to talk about on this forum.

Have a nice day.

Guy Keesee
climber.

MarthaP wrote:Amen. Sadly, those who are too busy doing other things besides spray about their accomplishments here (and who said SP was the litmus test for Real Climbers other than the few old farts who don't have a Real LIfe?) are considered frauds and those with big mouths are considered the Real Thing.

I'll never get it and that's probably a good thing.

Guyzo wrote:MarthaP.

I deeply regret writing what I wrote about you.

Going to your web site, I see you do indeed suffer and enjoy adventures.

I sometimes get frustrated with “fake climbers” here on SP. When I see a profile with no contributions to the general knowledge, I assume it’s fake.

I was wrong.

I am sorry.

Guy Keesee

MarthaP wrote:

Guyzo wrote:MarthaP.

I deeply regret writing what I wrote about you.

Going to your web site, I see you do indeed suffer and enjoy adventures.

I sometimes get frustrated with “fake climbers” here on SP. When I see a profile with no contributions to the general knowledge, I assume it’s fake.

I was wrong.

I am sorry.

Guy Keesee

Guy,

'mgosh. I hadn't expected this and am really humbled by the gesture.

I understand exactly where you're coming from as I've been in your shoes.

I'm grateful for your generosity and accept the apology, bury the hatchet, and hope to cross paths with you some day. You can teach me more than a few things about climbing 5.hard.

Ciao,
Martha