With Vlad. If there were a collection of routes Bryan might be ashamed of including in his guide book, this would lead the pack. Plenty sustained, runs up a corner the whole way...but as dirty and rotten rock as I have found in Zion...and that is a statement in and of it self. Once you turn out of the outstanding alcove that is home to Pick on the Fat Kid and Cornback Rattler....the rock goes to shit thus why there has not been much development beyond this section. Chossy, loose, scary leads on rock outside and inside the cracks. I reached in for a solid corner, no vision of fractures, on an off-width move on the 4th pitch. Whole damn inside corner came off. I cursed every five seconds on that last pitch, but there were bad spots on the two middle pitches as well.